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Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

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Judgee
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by Judgee »

Love the way he goes on about what the customers want. If he cared what the customers wanted he wouldn't have imposed failing revisions across the country where customers went without mail for days, even weeks on end! :so there
Union what Union? Do we have a union?
Cucumber
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by Cucumber »

Same tactics used to demonise train drivers who get paid a 'whopping' £50k to push a few buttons.

Simpletons in the public fall for it though.
Skuse
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by Skuse »

They might offer 5% no strings and I reckon even though it’s not good enough it may be accepted
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by smok3y666 »

zz666 wrote:
17 Jul 2022, 17:48
Wave bye, bye to Saturday letter deliveries.
good
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by SpacePhoenix »

smok3y666 wrote:
18 Jul 2022, 10:15
zz666 wrote:
17 Jul 2022, 17:48
Wave bye, bye to Saturday letter deliveries.
good
You do realise that the hours from Saturdays will be split over the remaining 5 days?
smok3y666
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by smok3y666 »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
18 Jul 2022, 10:59
smok3y666 wrote:
18 Jul 2022, 10:15
zz666 wrote:
17 Jul 2022, 17:48
Wave bye, bye to Saturday letter deliveries.
good
You do realise that the hours from Saturdays will be split over the remaining 5 days?
It's coming anyway so........
yorkmover123
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by yorkmover123 »

Simon Thompson receives a massive salary and pension. Why he getting a bonus for achieving nothing , we the workforce made the business the profits through the pandemic not him. Now he insults with a 2% pay rise and and with strings attached 3% if we agreed to losing money.
Myself and colleagues I work with have over 30 years service plus we all had enough of these CEO who come and go with gold plated pension and taking massive bonus payment and look down at the workforce , without the Cwu standing up for the workforce we would be worse off, what ever we get it’s not given by RM it’s the CWU and our members who have to fight for our conditions and pay rise.
If he cares about the workforce give the 5% now and respect our union .
norris9
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by norris9 »

Aren't we the most profitable, biggest and most popular courier company in the UK with a huge network, but Simon says that it is an 'emergency' if we don't change now, which seems a bit of an exaggeration...

Ok, I get it, we need some change, but do we really need as much change as you want. We are already doing Sunday deliveries....but yeah, Simon wants us (cheaper and more efficient labour), doing it.

So how much is Royal Mail going to profit from us working Sundays, from the savings on staff, to the boost in revenue from having more parcels to deliver? and why are we only being offered a measly 1.5% increase in wages based on the long list of changes you want implemented. It's worth a lot more than that!

'Convincing many in the working class of the merits of change is serious business'.....

1.5% is not a benefit of all the changes you want! We will be working harder, working Sundays, working in hotter afternoon temperatures, working later, our work-life balance made worse...... for 1.5%.

OF COURSE YOU CANNOT CONVINCE US!

Even for an extra 10% I wouldn't be convinced.
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by yellowbelly »

matthew68 wrote:
17 Jul 2022, 21:32
..........basically he wants a younger higher turnover staff who will be happy with the new hours and he wants everyone else who’s against it to leave he doesn’t give a crap about loyal workers anymore ...............
I can see this in our office, we have had an influx of recent starters since Xmas (to make up some existing shortfalls) and
they're all early 20's and decent workers but having conversations with them it's concerning that none of them
are in the union and don't want to be and don't care about the changes Si wants to force through.
When I ask why, it's because they're already used to the 'gig' economy of zero hours contracts, no holiday pay,
unpaid breaks, no allowances etc. They say if it gets really s**t they'll just move on to something else.
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by mags999 »

reduce are terms and conditions then get rid of 1 in 6 delivery staff due to the loss of saturdays in that order probably as long as its voluntary who can argue its the terms and cons that are the massive problem :sad:
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by priority102 »

yellowbelly wrote:
18 Jul 2022, 16:13
matthew68 wrote:
17 Jul 2022, 21:32
..........basically he wants a younger higher turnover staff who will be happy with the new hours and he wants everyone else who’s against it to leave he doesn’t give a crap about loyal workers anymore ...............
I can see this in our office, we have had an influx of recent starters since Xmas (to make up some existing shortfalls) and
they're all early 20's and decent workers but having conversations with them it's concerning that none of them
are in the union and don't want to be and don't care about the changes Si wants to force through.
When I ask why, it's because they're already used to the 'gig' economy of zero hours contracts, no holiday pay,
unpaid breaks, no allowances etc. They say if it gets really s**t they'll just move on to something else.
This has been my exact point. Many younger ones just want to do what they need to in order to get what money they need to pay their way for the current day. The future, pensions etc is just a word. This is why you will never get anywhere near the support for industrial action that the past has seen, as many in RM now only think of themselves and no one else.
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by WASD »

yellowbelly wrote:
18 Jul 2022, 16:13
matthew68 wrote:
17 Jul 2022, 21:32
..........basically he wants a younger higher turnover staff who will be happy with the new hours and he wants everyone else who’s against it to leave he doesn’t give a crap about loyal workers anymore ...............
I can see this in our office, we have had an influx of recent starters since Xmas (to make up some existing shortfalls) and
they're all early 20's and decent workers but having conversations with them it's concerning that none of them
are in the union and don't want to be and don't care about the changes Si wants to force through.
When I ask why, it's because they're already used to the 'gig' economy of zero hours contracts, no holiday pay,
unpaid breaks, no allowances etc. They say if it gets really s**t they'll just move on to something else.
And yet it'll back fire. The national staff shortage will cost RM experienced staff and therefore customers. Nobody will want to work here soon enough.
WASD
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by WASD »

smok3y666 wrote:
18 Jul 2022, 11:27
SpacePhoenix wrote:
18 Jul 2022, 10:59
smok3y666 wrote:
18 Jul 2022, 10:15
zz666 wrote:
17 Jul 2022, 17:48
Wave bye, bye to Saturday letter deliveries.
good
You do realise that the hours from Saturdays will be split over the remaining 5 days?
It's coming anyway so........
Along with no early finish on a Saturday, not that that really exists for many people anymore. Sure parcels are easy, but having to do late shifts on a Saturday will suck imo.
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by Flashman_ »

It seems to me that this type of person, who allegedly comes from working class background, often make life for the those where they have come from, difficult, when you think they might be more understanding. The apparent conflict his dad and grandad had was something that I remember very well happening in the Thatcher years, in particular with the miners strike, it got very ugly in lots a ways and families broke up because of it. Perhaps his views formed at that time has led him to be so selfish and anti working class that his action are now guided by that view. It certainly looks like that, as he clearly blames the the workers (in the form of the Union) for not accepting his doctrine.
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Re: Royal Mail union demands 28.50 a week for staff to push one button

Post by sorefeet17 »

They will keep pushing for these changes regardless of what happens in the current dispute, the Saturday thing is up to parliament so that will probably happen at some point.