Does he have child care issues ie picking his kid up from school at 3:00pm?
No. The only issues he has is being sent to a different DO to work a completely different shift pattern.
I had to work night's late's in the 1990's it is in your contract but this thing will be worse with Sunday working which is minimal now but will become more in the future if we don't fight it. We all have these contracts we should all read them because you never know! Ps sorry for your mate
If he is a reserve in his parent office and you have late turns that he has been asked to perform in the past then it's not unreasonable to ask him to go to different office to perform a late turn. If he is signed to a duty then he would require reasonable notice for change on shift pattern. Hard to define reasonable notice but I would suggest 28 days is the most generous he could hope for. Being told on Friday your on a different shift pattern next week in a different office is unreasonable. Contact your rep
Does he have child care issues ie picking his kid up from school at 3:00pm?
No. The only issues he has is being sent to a different DO to work a completely different shift pattern.
Does he have kids that someone else usually collects but unfortunately they can't so it's down to him, or does he have any other "pre booked" appointments or commitments like taking his elderly parents to the doctors
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Doesnt the business need to give you more notice than that if they want to change your hours of attendance?
How long has he been in the job?
This is what I was thinking. Its out of order to send someone to a different office then a completely different shift pattern.
But if they've worked late in the past with minimal notice they are probably on dodgy ground? The insurance issue is of more concern, if they only have cover for cummuting to a fixed place of employment they will be effectively uninsd if they drive to another DO, even if it is closer to home. They either need to check the position with their insurers, and record the conversation(!), or inform the COM they'll need to arrange their transport.
Doesnt the business need to give you more notice than that if they want to change your hours of attendance?
How long has he been in the job?
This is what I was thinking. Its out of order to send someone to a different office then a completely different shift pattern.
But if they've worked late in the past with minimal notice they are probably on dodgy ground? The insurance issue is of more concern, if they only have cover for cummuting to a fixed place of employment they will be effectively uninsd if they drive to another DO, even if it is closer to home. They either need to check the position with their insurers, and record the conversation(!), or inform the COM they'll need to arrange their transport.
Actually just been thinking similar myself, re-read the original post and it says he knows the collection so presumably did it on overtime which might indicate working later isn't a valid issue.
Doesnt the business need to give you more notice than that if they want to change your hours of attendance?
How long has he been in the job?
This is what I was thinking. Its out of order to send someone to a different office then a completely different shift pattern.
But if they've worked late in the past with minimal notice they are probably on dodgy ground? The insurance issue is of more concern, if they only have cover for cummuting to a fixed place of employment they will be effectively uninsd if they drive to another DO, even if it is closer to home. They either need to check the position with their insurers, and record the conversation(!), or inform the COM they'll need to arrange their transport.
Actually just been thinking similar myself, re-read the original post and it says he knows the collection so presumably did it on overtime which might indicate working later isn't a valid issue.
Yes, he's done the collection on overtime before so knows the collection.
It's just that he's being told to go to a different office and do a completely different "shift pattern" whilst there.
Not a lot you can do about it read contract still have my contract from the 1980's it says will be required to work shifts and all hours and weekends you cannot get around this wording sorry but we have a contract to do whatever they give you or us.
Not a lot you can do about it read contract still have my contract from the 1980's it says will be required to work shifts and all hours and weekends you cannot get around this wording sorry but we have a contract to do whatever they give you or us.
If the correct notice is given
If you tolerate this, then your paid break will be next
Not a lot you can do about it read contract still have my contract from the 1980's it says will be required to work shifts and all hours and weekends you cannot get around this wording sorry but we have a contract to do whatever they give you or us.
If the correct notice is given
3 DAY'S back in the day brown envelope with white paper sheet telling me need to be on shift at 21:30 Sunday only got the brown envelope thursday afternoon.
sorry unable to help.