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daveyeff
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Post by daveyeff »

i noticed on today's ballot paper the first days action (assuming a yes of course) will be on or around August 2nd, it also says the I/A ballot can last for 6 months from the ballots start date, which will of course take us right up to and beyond Christmas. that's assuming RMs arse doesn't go before then.
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Yes on strike in August the quietest time of the year
When most of the public on holiday and won’t give a flying ****
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Even if they come up with a sensible offer and the pay dispute is settled we could be looking at another ballot before Christmas over the proposed changes.
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qwerty2 wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 15:32
Yes on strike in August the quietest time of the year
When most of the public on holiday and won’t give a flying ****
they wont give a flying f**k at first, but if it drags on they will. if it starts to get anywhere near xmas their arse will go.
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daveyeff wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 15:36
..... if it starts to get anywhere near xmas their arse will go.
This is often repeated without any evidence to back it up.

If it was true that all we need to do is strike near xmas and RM will cave then why aren't we asking for a 30% pay rise and the immediate introduction of a 32 hour week?
If it was true why have we never been on strike at xmas?
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Some of these numpties start their Xmas shopping in September
so they’ll start to panic :left:
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A2B wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 15:33
Even if they come up with a sensible offer and the pay dispute is settled we could be looking at another ballot before Christmas over the proposed changes.
Of course we will be.
Are we supposed to believe that relations will be mended to the point that there will be an agreement on changes? No chance.

Like it or not but the strike is now going to be about both pay AND modernisation.
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clashcityrocker wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 15:40
daveyeff wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 15:36
..... if it starts to get anywhere near xmas their arse will go.
This is often repeated without any evidence to back it up.

If it was true that all we need to do is strike near xmas and RM will cave then why aren't we asking for a 30% pay rise and the immediate introduction of a 32 hour week?
If it was true why have we never been on strike at xmas?
well as it was mentioned on here before. our payrise years ago was always due in the latter part of the year, end of summer into autumn. RM got it shifted to April to avoid that very senario. also we very nearly were on strike at xmas but the pandemic put paid to that.
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Quietest part of the year? I'd say there ain't no Quietest time anymore so who cares when we strike.its bad for business even a hint of a strike so bring it on.
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someone asked Mick Lynch of the RMT why they were striking in the summer when it will effect everyone going on holiday? why can't you strike in the winter when it won't effect holidaying people. they answered their own question.
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Online delivery is constant now anytime is a bad time for RM being they cannot live up to the standards before Industrial Action says a lot about the way the business is run. A piss poor service run by eatoian twats thinking we are underworked overpaid for the job we all do time we show them we are more than the s**t on their shoes. And when since did simple Simon ever did a day's work never they guy failed in test and trace how many died because of the prevalence of Covid-19 in the early stages of the pandemic?, where test and trace would have prevented those who were most at risk and yet he lands a job heading a vital public service and turning it unto a graveyard by profiteering!
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A strike will not have any where NEAR the impact it would have had say 15 years ago. Urgent documents can be attached to e-mails....plenty of other courier options for parcels....the show will go on, with just some minor blips along the way for customers. All thanks to the government and Postcomm.
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As has been mentioned on here before the consequences of threat of a strike have shifted, it's not the receiving "customer" that we're interested in for their support, they probably don't care who turns up as long as they get their item, plus it's no longer the fact that someone might not receive their bills as quickly, RM don't care about them.

A strike now would hit RM more than ever before as the new parcel sending customers that RM have invested loads of time and effort in gaining business may possibly go elsewhere and maybe not return, not to mention the millions invested in parcel hubs to deal with this expected new business, so this time the prospect of losing/not having a chance of gaining lucrative parcel contracts because of a strike would really hit RM where it hurts.
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ted_e_bear wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 13:22
As has been mentioned on here before the consequences of threat of a strike have shifted, it's not the receiving "customer" that we're interested in for their support, they probably don't care who turns up as long as they get their item, plus it's no longer the fact that someone might not receive their bills as quickly, RM don't care about them.

A strike now would hit RM more than ever before as the new parcel sending customers that RM have invested loads of time and effort in gaining business may possibly go elsewhere and maybe not return, not to mention the millions invested in parcel hubs to deal with this expected new business, so this time the prospect of losing/not having a chance of gaining lucrative parcel contracts because of a strike would really hit RM where it hurts.
Big business Amazon, Asos, John Lewis, Just to name a few it is a dangerous game of poker to save a few million pounds when the company has made one billion pounds profit £1,000,000,000 it's a lot of money for backing the government line who we are not aligned with anymore with a 2% max pay cap for all. But the CEO has £37 billion reasons to deflect from his shambles of the UK government's Test And Trace fiasco still all these old or vulnerable people died because he could not make it work with £37 billion!
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qwerty2 wrote:
29 Jun 2022, 15:32
Yes on strike in August the quietest time of the year
When most of the public on holiday and won’t give a flying ****
What does it matter what the public think? When I joined the business, at least 95% of Mail handled was business mail. RM will be much more concerned at losing contracts with big business if there’s a massive yes vote