RMCtv : Simon Thompson : The changes we need

[richietns]

Its like we don't deliver letters which in fact takes the most time to deliver he's obsessed with ignoring the biggest time consumer.

[k979aaa]

WE do need change and change of the CEO of ROYAL MAIL!

[TopperGas]

So stage one triggered by 12 days or three absences from current 14 days or four absences in a year and only the first absence keeps current full pay,

rest is SSP which gets zero pay for first three days

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And we are apparently overpaid, while Si gets 3.6% and a £142k bonus on what was already ~550k salary.

I never realised that was the case? So if you have a day or two off with a cold/upset stomach etc then slip at work and twist your ankle or receive a dog bite or even get COVID you then get no pay at all for 3 days!

[2yearpostie]

Good job they arent planning to use the railways to move the post around on with all these strikes...um..wait a minute..

[norris9]

Analysing each proposed change.

A System of Yearly Flexi hours:

Based on my experience there is virtually no time spare to bank hours and have shorter Summer working days. The main reason some Posties might finish early is because they didn't take their breaks and/or they came in early.

If you implement this then you will need to make walks shorter in mail centres where they work to and beyond their finish time through Summer.

or

We could just stay as we are and if there are mail centres out there where it is clear they have easy Summers - then you need to revise their rounds to make them bigger. And amazingly you will then need less staff at those mail centres and save money.


Where are these early finish Summer days? they don't exist from what I have seen. And if you plan to take on more parcel contracts then we definitely aren't going to have these shorter Summer days.

So what's the actual deal here? What am I missing?

[norris9]

Incorporate Sunday as a working day

I get it. Sunday deliveries are common now and it makes sense to deliver on Sunday. You also said you don't want to be paying people premium Sunday wages, so instead want us to do it (I presume for no premium or a tiny premium).

If you pay the Sunday premium that currently exists then it is appealing. It needs to pay at least £15 per hour and you should have the option of being able to have the Saturday off if you work the Sunday - otherwise it's a no go for me.

The extra 1.5% 'conditions' pay rise is frankly a joke even if Sunday working was the only thing you wanted to add.


Starting later and finishing later

For me, this is the worst of the changes you want to implement.

One of the top 3 things about being a Postie for me is finishing early afternoon.

Do I want to work through School rush hour at 3pm and work rush hour at 5pm..... no. I will be more under pressure as it will take longer to do my job. I would not be surprised if Royal Mail had more vehicle accidents if we worked during rush hour and more slips and trips working in the dark.

[norris9]

Pay that's fair and consistent

I do not actually know what this proposal is exactly.

Also, as you are only offering us a pittance of a pay rise whilst taking a massive bonus and pay rise for yourself....I don't think you know anything about 'pay that is fair and consistent'.


Paying new starters less

An absolute insult. You are struggling to employ and retain staff as it is. People aren't overly keen to be Posties and move on quickly once they see how exhausting it is or find a better opportunity. Pay Posties fairly for the physicality of the job. I understand it's not a skilled job, but it is so physically demanding it deserves better pay.

[norris9]

Improving how we manage absence

As I am not ill regularly I am not too fussed about this one. I am annoyed that there seems to be no understanding as to why absence is high. Try walking 10 miles a day, 5 days a week, under pressure, up inclines and steps, in the heat, snow and pouring rain.

You also mention that people being sick puts added pressure on colleagues....it's not people's fault they are sick / injured and it should not put pressure on other Posties. If management are putting pressure on other Posties to do more to make up for someone who is off sick, then that is harassment.

[Clappedoutpostie]

Improving how we manage absence

As I am not ill regularly I am not too fussed about this one. I am annoyed that there seems to be no understanding as to why absence is high. Try walking 10 miles a day, 5 days a week, under pressure, up inclines and steps, in the heat, snow and pouring rain.

You also mention that people being sick puts added pressure on colleagues....it's not people's fault they are sick / injured and it should not put pressure on other Posties. If management are putting pressure on other Posties to do more to make up for someone who is off sick, then that is harassment.

But what if you are unlucky enough to fall ill Norris, will you still not be bothered then if you are just receiving SSP?

[k979aaa]

Improving how we manage absence

As I am not ill regularly I am not too fussed about this one. I am annoyed that there seems to be no understanding as to why absence is high. Try walking 10 miles a day, 5 days a week, under pressure, up inclines and steps, in the heat, snow and pouring rain.

You also mention that people being sick puts added pressure on colleagues....it's not people's fault they are sick / injured and it should not put pressure on other Posties. If management are putting pressure on other Posties to do more to make up for someone who is off sick, then that is harassment.

But what if you are unlucky enough to fall ill Norris, will you still not be bothered then if you are just receiving SSP?

How about pay some staff not bousses like confetti to all and sundry managers is the tile of a job manage with the recourses you have if you don't have enough go above to your managers. Thing is I know they will not as it is a suicide for progression so they persecute the workers and in time think they are worth their own weight in gold. At the end of the day they are good or bad at the job or have questionable morals or just inept but climbing that ladder they will. They are just but people bullshiter liers or fantasisers narcissists or looking for an easy life but to get to the top you need all these skills at once why do the best actors in the world get paid so much? This is where these people meet in terms of deceiving you and everyone and nations!

[postslippete]

Personally, I'm not all that bothered with Simon's salary or anyone else's for that matter. Simon is just one man at the top.



What I'm more concerned with is how out of touch the Royal Mail are with the benefits of the changes that they are proposing and how to implement it. Step forward the new Flexi system which is toast before its even started. People starting later and then be expected to work longer hours in winter with no overtime pay? Thats sounds like it might provoke a mutiny!

Sunday working without the Sunday premium? Problem with that is that they are already paying the Sunday premium!! Its a similar theme to those who are on these additional allowances and whether I agree with them or not, how would you feel if someone just decided right you know that extra £40 a week we have been giving you for the last 6 years for that WPC role - well we want to take that away now. It defies complete logic what Royal Mail are doing UNLESS they are offering something substantially better for everyone else in return. And this communication they really need to work on.

[k979aaa]

Personally, I'm not all that bothered with Simon's salary or anyone else's for that matter. Simon is just one man at the top.



What I'm more concerned with is how out of touch the Royal Mail are with the benefits of the changes that they are proposing and how to implement it. Step forward the new Flexi system which is toast before its even started. People starting later and then be expected to work longer hours in winter with no overtime pay? Thats sounds like it might provoke a mutiny!

Sunday working without the Sunday premium? Problem with that is that they are already paying the Sunday premium!! Its a similar theme to those who are on these additional allowances and whether I agree with them or not, how would you feel if someone just decided right you know that extra £40 a week we have been giving you for the last 6 years for that WPC role - well we want to take that away now. It defies complete logic what Royal Mail are doing UNLESS they are offering something substantially better for everyone else in return. And this communication they really need to work on.

Well if your not bothered who else is?

[clashcityrocker]

Well if your not bothered who else is?

Are we going to threaten strike action because we want a fair pay rise or because we want to overthrow capitalism?
I doubt if any of the Tory-voting Brexit-backing staff in my DO would support the revolution.

And you can bet your bottom Euro that when this is all done and dusted that the CEO will still be earning a lot more than the frontline staff.
So while it might be really terrible that Si earns squillions, we aren't about to change that any time soon.

[k979aaa]

Well if your not bothered who else is?

Are we going to threaten strike action because we want a fair pay rise or because we want to overthrow capitalism?
I doubt if any of the Tory-voting Brexit-backing staff in my DO would support the revolution.

And you can bet your bottom Euro that when this is all done and dusted that the CEO will still be earning a lot more than the frontline staff.
So while it might be really terrible that Si earns squillions, we aren't about to change that any time soon.

This is not about pay it is about control of you abolition of unions and everyone works for a set wage economy except the rich be for long the minimum wage will be what you earn or the minimum a contractor or employer or government will pay.

[TopperGas]

Well if your not bothered who else is?

Are we going to threaten strike action because we want a fair pay rise or because we want to overthrow capitalism?
I doubt if any of the Tory-voting Brexit-backing staff in my DO would support the revolution.

And you can bet your bottom Euro that when this is all done and dusted that the CEO will still be earning a lot more than the frontline staff.
So while it might be really terrible that Si earns squillions, we aren't about to change that any time soon.

This is not about pay it is about control of you abolition of unions and everyone works for a set wage economy except the rich be for long the minimum wage will be what you earn or the minimum a contractor or employer or government will pay.

But that's not a fight RM workers' are going to win, surely our only concern is getting a decent pay rise and getting most, if not all, of the changes kicked into touch. The shareholders can decide if the CEO still deserves a bonus next year once he's lost the battle with the CWU/RM workers