2 tier workforce : Revised entry terms for new employees

[Woody Guthrie]

I think a lot of people are misreading this.
Any new starts will be based on a 40hr contract not given a 40hr contract.
That's where the lower hourly rate comes from.

£24,170 a year outside of London is what we're currently on.
The new starts would have to work 40hrs to get it, we would only
work 37hrs.

[Acca Dacca]

I think a lot of people are misreading this.
Any new starts will be based on a 40hr contract not given a 40hr contract.
That's where the lower hourly rate comes from.

£24,170 a year outside of London is what we're currently on.
The new starts would have to work 40hrs to get it, we would only
work 37hrs.

Thats how I read it, as new starts havent been brought in on full time contracts for at least 15 years

Terry is spinning it differently though - maybe deliberately

[FAB]

I hope that all new board members, directors and future CEO and Chairman will also be on lower wages coupled with longer hours! Thought not!

[TopperGas]

I think a lot of people are misreading this.
Any new starts will be based on a 40hr contract not given a 40hr contract.
That's where the lower hourly rate comes from.

£24,170 a year outside of London is what we're currently on.
The new starts would have to work 40hrs to get it, we would only
work 37hrs.

Thats how I read it, as new starts havent been brought in on full time contracts for at least 15 years

Terry is spinning it differently though - maybe deliberately
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So new part timers are also liable to be on the lower hourly rate, although that could back far on RM as it they then work the usual 25+ overtime they'll probably be earning more than they presently do. Perhaps if RM made it sound attractive, rather than the opposite it may have more appeal.

[whatshappening1]

I was under the impression it was already a two tier workforce for years.

[k979aaa]

I was under the impression it was already a two tier workforce for years.

You mean part time full time or new starts?

[Acca Dacca]

I was under the impression it was already a two tier workforce for years.

You mean part time full time or new starts?

new starts

[k979aaa]

I was under the impression it was already a two tier workforce for years.

You mean part time full time or new starts?

new starts

Kind of is in a way as sick pay and pensions and the way they treat staff is so bad

[SMS1969]

I was under the impression it was already a two tier workforce for years.

You mean part time full time or new starts?

new starts

Kind of is in a way as sick pay and pensions and the way they treat staff is so bad

Also on less pay for a year

[k979aaa]

I was under the impression it was already a two tier workforce for years.

You mean part time full time or new starts?

new starts

Kind of is in a way as sick pay and pensions and the way they treat staff is so bad

Also on less pay for a year

Their is always this even 30 plus years ago it is weeding out the wheat from the chaff.

[Lawrencepa2014]

I’ve just been offered full time (as of today) and they said it’ll be under same conditions as before

[wandle]

If recruiting new starts on 40hr contracts with inferior pay is allowed to sneak through, eventually there will come a time when most of us have left the business or retired, and RM will try to ‘harmonise’ pay rates by slashing the pay of those still on our current terms. How do you think those who have by then have been on inferior pay rates will react when asked to vote for strikes to protect the earnings of those on the higher rates??

[whatshappening1]

I was under the impression it was already a two tier workforce for years.

You mean part time full time or new starts?

For me it was always the you are just a part timer from full time staff, this expalins why u should accept being shafted for your rota day off being a tuesday every week, or why whatever round was the heaviest that day was the round you would be doing or why you had to work every saturday. I do accept seniority is just part of the business but added to the full time part time devide it creates a two tier workforce. But we are all eqaul when it comes to ballots . Before anyone starts with the you knew what u singed up for on a part time contract. No you dont your told you could be made up told your round would be ready for you you will have a roatating day off. First year in any job your always willing to go above and beyond to prove yourself try fit in but we all know its full timers first everyone else fight for the scraps. Wonder how the 3/4 tier system will pan out. Rant over

[Navalron]

There not saying the will be 40 hour contracts, only that pay will be based on 40 hours, meaning that the pay rate per hour is even lower. Also they won't get delivery supplement, and what about shift allowances and how much pension contributions will RM be making into the lower paid staff. Shower of s**t.

[Cucumber]

If recruiting new starts on 40hr contracts with inferior pay is allowed to sneak through, eventually there will come a time when most of us have left the business or retired, and RM will try to ‘harmonise’ pay rates by slashing the pay of those still on our current terms. How do you think those who have by then have been on inferior pay rates will react when asked to vote for strikes to protect the earnings of those on the higher rates??

I've been saying it for years, that there will come a time in the not too distant future that part time staff, either new entrants or those on inferior pension terms/pay/conditions etc will be asked to go out on strike for something that doesn't affect them.
Good luck with asking for support if people are already working 5/7 days, moved at short notice, no idea what shift they are on next week, inferior pay, inferior pension and also having just done 2 years of 3-9pm shifts during covid.