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Above & Beyond Bonus Scheme

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Pharox
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Re: Above & Beyond Bonus Scheme

Post by Pharox »

Had a afternoon tea and cake with my pal, Simple Simon, there are the notes
• Applicable to Delivery & Processing for one year but with option to extend if successful. It would be discretionary not contractual.
High level objectives:
“We will try it for one year, but don’t worry, if you fall short of the target by 99.9%. This will be classed as successful, remember *YOU* have helped the company save money and we may reward you with a discretionary payment up to £9.62 per week, minus the tax of course, silly you! (£500/52weeks) but really we wont! You can try even harder when we extend it for a second year. Know it for a fact, no contractual nonsense at Royal Mail. We are such a Great employer!”
• Drive productivity improvements at a unit / MC level / RDC level based upon individual targets
“Forget lazy Larry who has a balanced home and work life, only works his contracted hours, takes his full break etc.....BOOOOOO as long as YOU work even harder than you do now, cut corners, doorstep, ooops did I just say that. YOU can reward yourself with the knowledge, that you are better than Lazy Larry, that will be a super awesome feeling.”
• Accelerate year 3 Pathway to Change targets in year 2
“Now Team, this is where things get real, YOU need to work harder and harder than you ever did before. Just think what you can achieve, beating year 3 targets in year 2! Super awesome feeling! How do you ask that, I hear you say, well just think of that coffin shaped hole in the ground that you are itching to fill, along with that made-up silly illness arthritis, who wants knees away? You won’t feel that bad back in the coffin! Plus, you won’t feel knackered anymore, as can rest as much as you want in the coffin. Sounds fun, doesn’t it! Just remember Royal mails motto ‘We are a caring employer’.”
• Productivity gains realised at a unit level with individual targets being agreed. benefits would be shared 50/50 between the employees and the company.
“Team, I have to confess something here, when I say I care about our employees, but I don’t really, it’s the shareholders I deeply care for. I feel really bad and upset, that I, I mean Royal Mail, have to hand our worthless employees something like 50%, that is outrageous, they should be paying us!”
We want to create a culture of success which colleagues can share in. In the Pathway to Change agreement, we introduced productivity targets, but we are not achieving them in most workplaces. We want to incentivise colleagues to work as a team to achieve and exceed these targets.
“We have already got culture in the workplace, it’s called B&H, but due to the PC crowd we are not allowed to call it that anymore, so it’s now ‘Culture’. Adding employee based targets in the unit, will spice things up a bit more! I’m going go to hell for that.”
We believe this approach could deliver incentives of around £500 per year, per employee. It will improve our productivity as a business and that will help us grow, compete and success as well as continue to offer great jobs.
“Royal Mail will not and does not promise anything close to £500, but with your help, your blood and sweat, your sheer determination to go above and beyond, we will offer you the *chance* that *could* lead a financial reward of *up to* £500 per year! Just think what you could spend that money on, part payment towards new knees, back treatment, that coffin you have had your eye for a long time, your dreams will become reality. Remember, Royal Mail helps to get you in the ground quicker"

Just some fun :)
matthew68
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Re: Above & Beyond Bonus Scheme

Post by matthew68 »

What a load of Bollox
fb1969
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Re: Above & Beyond Bonus Scheme

Post by fb1969 »

Pharox wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 19:57

Just some fun :)
And probably not far off the mark, the bloke takes us all for idiots.
Royal Mail
failing the workforce, failing the public and deliberately failing mail on a daily basis for too many years.
matthew68
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Re: Above & Beyond Bonus Scheme

Post by matthew68 »

Acca Dacca wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 17:44
A payment for going beyond

Also known as overtime
Or as most idiots seem to do unpaid overtime
norris9
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Re: Above & Beyond Bonus Scheme

Post by norris9 »

£500 bonus. Wow! He really values us.... not.

2% pay rise. Minimum wage is up 6.6%. So that's essentially a 4.6% reduction in pay in my eyes, especially with inflation at 9%....

but he's topping us up £500 if we work our butts off.

He'll probably scrap the £100 or whatever lame bonus we currently get for going ABOVE & BEYOND working over our times to complete, especially at xmas. Maybe the free stamps will be scrapped too, so that's another £50 saved per Postie....

So, the bonus in reality is (probably) essentially £350 in return for being harassed by management even more than we currently do and clearing the office not just our frames.

Meanwhile he'll be getting what bonus? £1million+ ?

I just hate the fact that he thinks we are all desperate to make an extra £10 here or there. He thinks we are all poor and £500 is enough to change our lives. It won't. Here peasants look at this shiny bonus that I have dressed up for you.

The reality is it isn't a bonus.... as it doesn't even make up for the lame 2% pay rise you have given us. We are losing out for going ABOVE & BEYOND. It's a con.
heapsy
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Re: Above & Beyond Bonus Scheme

Post by heapsy »

When the £300 a week came in, our office only got it because we walked out for two days. We couldn't achieve the targets set because we'd already lost too many hours. Now, for the first time in my 30 + years and counting, walks are failing daily. Unheard of before.
Tiddler
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Re: Above & Beyond Bonus Scheme

Post by Tiddler »

This sounds like schemes they've employed in Banks & Suoermarkets - "help us save money by getting people too use automated systems" to them be told "Thanks for doing that, now we don't need you, as more people using automated systems means we need less staff - see ya!"

Who decides if you've gone above & beyond, your line manager? So they end up just rewarding their mates.
derekm
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Re: Above & Beyond Bonus Scheme

Post by derekm »

Only get it if your office is cleared daily.. :chuckle struggle to finish our own walks without going out with extra workload.
Woody Guthrie
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Re: Above & Beyond Bonus Scheme

Post by Woody Guthrie »

We've seen this kind of thing before.
There's a real danger in these schemes after missing out a couple of times poor offices just get poorer.

Financial motivation only works if it's possible, if not it has the opposite "why bother?" effect.
Only dead fish follow the current
WASD
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Re: Above & Beyond Bonus Scheme

Post by WASD »

Some great posts and responses here, especially Pharox's.

No mention of extra Greggs' vouchers? :left:

Do they really expect people to be positive about this crap? Most posties have been doing extra since 2020 and literally can't do any more.
k979aaa
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Re: Above & Beyond Bonus Scheme

Post by k979aaa »

How about grow the business not become market leader of s**t workforce relations who is this clown here https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/mar ... utive.html He maybe computer scincetist but he is a not god!
norris9
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Re: Above & Beyond Bonus Scheme

Post by norris9 »

Most Posties go ABOVE & BEYOND daily and especially at Xmas and you've been giving us a HUGE (sarcasm) £100 bonus for that.


Why would anyone want a convoluted bonus system which would mean we'd have to trust a manager to decide in our favour if we deserve it or not. Just causes stress and anxiety and arguments.

As we get £100 a year bonus without a bonus scheme in place, then essentially this is only going to be a £400 bonus in return for exhausting ourselves even further and probably being harassed more.


Based on this whole pay rise saga they clearly think an extra 2% pay rise is a lot to us, and that a £500 bonus will change our lives. They have got it so wrong.


You'd be better off paying a daily bonus for completing the round you are on. Maybe £5 a day for completing. I guess most Posties work approx 240 days a year which would amount to £1,200 a year if they completed every single day. Then again, you will have to have someone managing this which can cause issues. If there's going to be managers arguing that they found 1 letter was left in the depot and therefore you didn't complete, then forget about this as an idea. Also, you guys probably don't want to be paying out £1,200 a year in bonuses as you clearly aren't keen on paying us what we deserve.