Streaming mail

[Jookgal]

Can anyone direct me to the latest rules around streaming mail please. As in being told to take only where you are going. Thanks

[greengiant]

Ask your manager to put the request to stream mail in writing.
Effectively he is asking that you wilfully delay mail, which used to be a sackable offence!

[RoboPostie]

I don't get that- do you mean you're being told to take mail only where you are also going to deliver a packet?

[Acca Dacca]

I don't get that- do you mean you're being told to take mail only where you are also going to deliver a packet?

More likely its a bulk posting and been told to only deliver it to where already going with other mail

[RoboPostie]

More likely its a bulk posting and been told to only deliver it to where already going with other mail

That sounds fine- it's not a policy at our place, but there are posties who do it by choice. I don't bother as at my frame a lot of the time it's 2 addresses per slot, so if you took one D2D you'd need to write the house number on the remaining one.

[POSTMAN]

Date: Friday, 5 November, 2010, 17:24

Dear Colleagues,

During the recent ADR briefings the subject of ‘Streaming or Skimming’ of mail was raised by a number of reps and subsequently raised by me at the NDG. Royal Mail’s response was that they were unaware of it and it was only anecdotal, they needed firmer ‘evidence’. Therefore could reps please supply the dept via email with any instances where this has occurred or is occurring, naming the office and the manager of the office and how frequently this has occurred, and how the streaming actually occurs. In some cases the decision of what not to deliver has been left to OPGs which in itself is unacceptable. In other instances it forms part of absorption/lapsing where an OPG is taken off a delivery to allow others to absorb the delivery by only delivering the 1c and leaving everything else in the frame.



Your urgent attention and response to this request would be greatly appreciated.


Please send your replies to bgibson@cwu.org no later than Thursday 11th November 2010. POSTMAN EDIT:IGNORE DATES:KEEP SENDING!



Thanks


Bob Gibson
CWU Assistant Secretary - Outdoor

Outdoor Postal Dept
CWU HQ
150 The Broadway
Wimbledon
London SW19 1RX
Tel: 0208 971 7276

Also LTB 078/17 - Royal Mail & CWU National Joint Statement Avoiding Delay (Commit to Deliver) and Reporting Standards

[clashcityrocker]

If mail is going to fail, for whatever reason, then someone has to make the decision as to what should fail.
That is above our pay grade.
The unit rep should be ensuring that all failures are properly communicated.

[twoloops]

On a very light day which we would still have trouble completing, we are told to take it all out & any single one house letters if it looks like junk, miss it & chuck it back in the frame next day.

[sixfoottwo]

Insanely busy today we was told to take it out and bring back what we couldn't do basically another form of streaming in all but name!

We brought 2 big loops back plus a few pkts.

[eastie]

This goes on all the time.
Told to take out the whole frame and bring it back.
You have to ring the manager at 12 noon but the DOM has gone home by cut off time, leave it bundled on the bench and rethrow it off next day
DOM has earlier in the day said the office is clear but then loads cut off and bring mail back and higher up haven't got a scooby doo what's going on

[RoboPostie]

DOM has earlier in the day said the office is clear but then loads cut off and bring mail back and higher up haven't got a scooby doo what's going on

Of course, it takes time to box in the mail again the next day, so the cycle of failure repeats itself. This is a case of a DOM wilfully delaying the mail, in order to save their neck.

[luddite]

Common practice, can't complete? Delivery the important stuff!
So along comes the revision to sort it all out....duties worse than before.....and lapsing returns....
Can't complete? Deliver the important stuff!

......and so it goes on and on.

[postslippete]

Can anyone direct me to the latest rules around streaming mail please. As in being told to take only where you are going. Thanks

Some posties tend to do it for the D2Ds. Put them all in and just take where you are going.


Not for mail though, because if you're off tomorrow you're going to leave more of the bulk stuff; and if you're not off tomorrow then you might be tempted to pull a sickie.

[RTP]

This hit our office last week. New business decision apparently. Have to take lapsing and stream our own rounds if we can't complete or we can book the overtime. Is this happening in other offices?

[twoloops]

In the past I have been told to just take 1st class & anything with it, time it takes to sort it out you might as well pull the lot out & skip any single 2nd class & bring it back for the cobble box in the back of the van, If we get annualised hours this will most likely become the norm