Update on pay : 2% no strings offer rejected 25/05/2022 : Page 19

[Cucumber]

Terry Pullinger with an update from Royal Mail Group pay talks - get ready to ballot.

Talks have broken down today, 2 days before Fridays deadline.

[fb1969]

Get the ballot papers out now Terry, there's an extra string now - the one you are clinging onto for thinking they give a s**t.

I know they were your mates a while back, but that isnt the case now.

Terry's update here

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[POSTMAN]

Update on CWU pay talks

As you’re probably aware, there were planned pay deal talks this week where we hoped to move the conversation forward and start discussing some of the detail of the changes we’re seeking. Disappointingly the CWU left those talks without engaging in a conversation on the change elements of our pay offer.
I want to update you and let you know that CWU has now opted to move the pay discussions into our agreed Dispute Resolution Process.

Dispute Resolution Process

This is a formal process as outlined in our Agenda for Growth Agreement and involves a period of intense talks lasting one month, unless both parties decide they need to extend that.

We’ve asked them to commit to a genuine conversation about the changes we need as well as pay. We put forward a proposal which aims to balance recognising the great work of our people, maintaining our industry-leading pay and benefits, at the same time ensuring Royal Mail can grow and remain competitive into the future. Getting this balance right is what creates job security for everyone in the long term.

Even the hint of industrial action is damaging for our business at a time of increasing economic uncertainty and intense competitive pressure. We’re continuing to see media and customer speculation about the impact of Royal Mail strike action and it only serves to damage us as a business – customers choose to use us and they can just as easily choose to take their business to our competitors if our service to them is uncertain.

Whilst we understand CWU may have rejected our initial offer, we’ve not yet had a chance to discuss any detail on our change proposals, so moving directly into dispute feels like we’re missing an opportunity to speed up getting to an agreement.

We’re committed to using the Dispute Resolution Process to reach agreement

The Dispute Resolution Process is there to help us to advance talks when there is an impasse, so we’re fully committed to doing all we can to use it to get to a resolution and we hope CWU are taking the same approach. It is our joint responsibility to find a way through and agree a deal quickly.

We know many people are feeling the impact of the rising cost of living now so we want to get a pay deal done in as short a time as possible. And we hope those discussions keep things moving and avoid the possibility of unnecessary and damaging industrial action.

As we’ve said already, we must agree a deal that sets us up for tomorrow, and not just today, taking into account the changes we need to grow the business. We must respond to changing customer demands – bigger parcels, more next day parcels, seven-day deliveries and a service that is better for the planet too. We must adapt to thrive as a business.

Starting pay talks for Parcelforce Worldwide employees

I also want to let you know we have now begun talks with CWU to agree a pay deal for our Parcelforce employees.
We’ll update Parcelforce Worldwide colleagues as soon as we can.

Scheduled talks for a pay offer for Fleet employees

Finally, we have also arranged to meet CWU later this week regarding a pay deal for our Fleet employees, and the relevant changes required as part of that offer. Again, we’ll update you as soon as we can.

We value the joint work we have done with CWU and we would like to continue that now to get a pay deal done quickly.
Keep checking Workplace for official updates on how talks are progressing.

Thank you,
Ricky McAulay
Operational Development Director

[ted_e_bear]

So it's going to drag on and on and on..... again.

[postslippete]

Ironic how the greedy bosses of Royal Mail have the gall to mention about the "hint of industrial action being damaging for our business" when they are the ones that are directly implicated, pushing us towards it with their embarrassingly paltry offer.

[Whinealot]

So here we go again! Let’s blame the CWU for this one Eh Ricky? You were told quite emphatically by El Tel that CWU were seeking a no strings pay offer. Let’s simplify this RM payed £400M to share holders last year, the Govt contract for test kits was worth £600M plus they had increased revenue from online shopping on lockdowns. All this on top of usual traffic through the chain. Insultingly, the company offers precisely and exactly NOTHING on pay and wishes any pay award to be effectively self financing through the snipping of our T&C’s. I don’t know why we have to put up with this at every pay review because apparently our employer is caring, and a leader in their field for looking after its staff? Really!!!

[daveyeff]

they come out with the same bullshit every time there's a threat of I/A.

[sixfoottwo]

It just goes to show Royal Mail don't give two sh***s about me and you, total disdain for us.

[fb1969]

"Even the hint of industrial action is damaging for our business"

Well Ricky the company lied, lied and lied again at the real reasons for so many failures in delivery over the last 12 months - trotting out the same old copy and paste bollocks every time. Super Si's "trust on the doorstep" has been well and truly pissed up the wall by the company, but you carry on threatening us.

I care as much about the company as you care about the frontline workforce.

[Dorset Plodder]

Great being able to compare the two videos. You can appreciate how the public would view it if they only saw the Wankspace video!

I cannnot for the life of me understand how supposedly intelligent RM Directors cannot manage to get their heads around ... "A Payrise with NO strings attached" sounds quite simple to me. But instead we get them grizzling ... "The CWU walked away without even considering the changes we wanted to discusss" For FFS man that's what Terry told you before you even started talking.

#PayRiseNotPayDeal

[WASD]

I care as much about the company as you care about the frontline workforce.

Well said, i agree fully.

Worked my backside off during CV, only be told i'd only get the pro rata CV bonus despite doing more hours than many full timers.

[sixfoottwo]

Looks like the lies have started and its the unions fault as to why the 'talks' have broken down according the the Memo I got on my Pda today

[Woody Guthrie]

They can lie all they want, it's not going to play well with the staff.

We just want a pay rise.

As long as the union holds that line and keeps it simple the company comes across as making the unreasonable demands.

It's a bit of a PR mess for the company and I'm not sure I would pick Ricky M to front their end.

He's not exactly warm and cuddly and if the idea is to win the hearts and minds of the staff and undermine the union he's not who I would pick to do it.

[ted_e_bear]

I care as much about the company as you care about the frontline workforce.

Well said, i agree fully.

Worked my backside off during CV, only be told i'd only get the pro rata CV bonus despite doing more hours than many full timers.

Same here and as usual got fukd over for the Christmas bonus as well.

[fb1969]

CWU Facebook this afternoon.

EXCLUSIVE: Terry Pullinger on Royal Mail talks and the next steps.

We cover:

- The 'offer' from Royal Mail
- How the talks went
- The £400m payment to shareholders
- The strings Royal Mail are trying to attach to Pay
- The change our members have already taken
- The LIVE Q&A for members which will take place on Monday at 7pm
- The need to get the message out.

No pay rise if we don't accept the changes that they want.........

Video https://fb.watch/cPET6LR4po/