It sounds like they don’t want them to enter the DO’s and will be run directly from the mail centres.Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 22:16Being a regular LAT driver at my DO, this happens most days already. On a normal day I take the majority of parcels for two/three walks, along with any miss sorts and the odd special, and do these along with collecting the LAT's from the MC and delivering them. No issues with it myself and I often ask around in case any of the later starters has anything else they'd like me to take off them.Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 21:33They are after what they were after last time, taking anything bigger than a shoebox off “core” delivery’s. They will then have later parcel drivers who can do the LAT’s at the same time. They will then revise the walks (remember we agreed to yearly revisions) and they will become even bigger. That’s how I read it.
I can see that this might not work for some, but it works for me and it regularly boosts my hours to well above my contracted 18hrs a week
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If they put the LATs through the big parcel hubs the depending on the relative locations of the LAT hubs and the MC and the volumes, would they even pass through the MCs? For some hubs it might be worth them running a van direct from the big parcel hub to the LAT hubClappedoutpostie wrote: ↑22 Apr 2022, 06:39It sounds like they don’t want them to enter the DO’s and will be run directly from the mail centres.Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 22:16Being a regular LAT driver at my DO, this happens most days already. On a normal day I take the majority of parcels for two/three walks, along with any miss sorts and the odd special, and do these along with collecting the LAT's from the MC and delivering them. No issues with it myself and I often ask around in case any of the later starters has anything else they'd like me to take off them.Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 21:33They are after what they were after last time, taking anything bigger than a shoebox off “core” delivery’s. They will then have later parcel drivers who can do the LAT’s at the same time. They will then revise the walks (remember we agreed to yearly revisions) and they will become even bigger. That’s how I read it.
I can see that this might not work for some, but it works for me and it regularly boosts my hours to well above my contracted 18hrs a week
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Martin Walsh
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Most of you have overlooked Ricky Maculay’s reference to reducing the need to use planes to transport the mail.
The attendance patterns in VOCs , RDCs , Mail Centres and Deliveries is heavily reliant on the transport of distance mail by plane. The cessation of the use of planes apart from Northern Ireland will mean the whole window has to move later to ensure the USO connects with delivery in line with Royal Mail’s licence.
Moving that work which would normally go on planes to either road or rail will instantly mean most deliveries will start much later. Those in Scotland , North East and South West will start even later as they are heavily reliant on work from planes connecting to the USO.
This will have a knock on effect to mail centres in particular for inward duties as the work will get to the inward mail centre much later in the night and early morning. Distribution runs , VOCs runs will also be impacted.
Be in no doubt Royal Mails aim to cease the use of planes move the delivery window back to 8-4 or 9-5 window and possibly later in the distant parts of the UK.
The attendance patterns in VOCs , RDCs , Mail Centres and Deliveries is heavily reliant on the transport of distance mail by plane. The cessation of the use of planes apart from Northern Ireland will mean the whole window has to move later to ensure the USO connects with delivery in line with Royal Mail’s licence.
Moving that work which would normally go on planes to either road or rail will instantly mean most deliveries will start much later. Those in Scotland , North East and South West will start even later as they are heavily reliant on work from planes connecting to the USO.
This will have a knock on effect to mail centres in particular for inward duties as the work will get to the inward mail centre much later in the night and early morning. Distribution runs , VOCs runs will also be impacted.
Be in no doubt Royal Mails aim to cease the use of planes move the delivery window back to 8-4 or 9-5 window and possibly later in the distant parts of the UK.
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What would be a rough estimate for how many hours later the work will arrive later?Martin Walsh wrote: ↑22 Apr 2022, 07:36Most of you have overlooked Ricky Maculay’s reference to reducing the need to use planes to transport the mail.
The attendance patterns in VOCs , RDCs , Mail Centres and Deliveries is heavily reliant on the transport of distance mail by plane. The cessation of the use of planes apart from Northern Ireland will mean the whole window has to move later to ensure the USO connects with delivery in line with Royal Mail’s licence.
Moving that work which would normally go on planes to either road or rail will instantly mean most deliveries will start much later. Those in Scotland , North East and South West will start even later as they are heavily reliant on work from planes connecting to the USO.
This will have a knock on effect to mail centres in particular for inward duties as the work will get to the inward mail centre much later in the night and early morning. Distribution runs , VOCs runs will also be impacted.
Be in no doubt Royal Mails aim to cease the use of planes move the delivery window back to 8-4 or 9-5 window and possibly later in the distant parts of the UK.
Will the LAT stuff end up either going out to the DOs on the normal final dispatches or will the LAT stuff instead of going out to hubs, just go out on the normal final dispatches to whatever DO they're proper to?
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If they want deliveries all day during hot summers then the Union better start pushing for Air Cons in vehicles as standard, otherwise, they'll be spending more on accidents from exhausted drivers. Unless the Union or RM can come up with something to mitigate a real H&S concern.Martin Walsh wrote: ↑22 Apr 2022, 07:36Most of you have overlooked Ricky Maculay’s reference to reducing the need to use planes to transport the mail.
The attendance patterns in VOCs , RDCs , Mail Centres and Deliveries is heavily reliant on the transport of distance mail by plane. The cessation of the use of planes apart from Northern Ireland will mean the whole window has to move later to ensure the USO connects with delivery in line with Royal Mail’s licence.
Moving that work which would normally go on planes to either road or rail will instantly mean most deliveries will start much later. Those in Scotland , North East and South West will start even later as they are heavily reliant on work from planes connecting to the USO.
This will have a knock on effect to mail centres in particular for inward duties as the work will get to the inward mail centre much later in the night and early morning. Distribution runs , VOCs runs will also be impacted.
Be in no doubt Royal Mails aim to cease the use of planes move the delivery window back to 8-4 or 9-5 window and possibly later in the distant parts of the UK.
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I've been doing a collection this week and have noticed an increase in large heavy special deliveries, according to a member of staff in one of the post offices this is due to the price changes making special delivery more competitive.
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Possibly? its certainly far more efficient for them to be picked up. I also see drivers from other DO's picking up their LAT's each day when im there, so know that we're not the only ones doing it. This way I can collect them at around 10.30/11am, whereas they wont be at the DO till around 2pm!Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑22 Apr 2022, 06:39It sounds like they don’t want them to enter the DO’s and will be run directly from the mail centres.Norfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 22:16Being a regular LAT driver at my DO, this happens most days already. On a normal day I take the majority of parcels for two/three walks, along with any miss sorts and the odd special, and do these along with collecting the LAT's from the MC and delivering them. No issues with it myself and I often ask around in case any of the later starters has anything else they'd like me to take off them.Clappedoutpostie wrote: ↑21 Apr 2022, 21:33They are after what they were after last time, taking anything bigger than a shoebox off “core” delivery’s. They will then have later parcel drivers who can do the LAT’s at the same time. They will then revise the walks (remember we agreed to yearly revisions) and they will become even bigger. That’s how I read it.
I can see that this might not work for some, but it works for me and it regularly boosts my hours to well above my contracted 18hrs a week
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Going by Martin Walsh's post, it could potentially end up with the LATs going out on the final dispatches as t sounds like for some areas the final dispatches could be put back by at least a couple of hoursNorfolk 'N' Chance wrote: ↑22 Apr 2022, 10:00
Possibly? its certainly far more efficient for them to be picked up. I also see drivers from other DO's picking up their LAT's each day when im there, so know that we're not the only ones doing it. This way I can collect them at around 10.30/11am, whereas they wont be at the DO till around 2pm!
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Presumably The Channel Islands and Isle Of Man mail also moves by plane.Martin Walsh wrote: ↑22 Apr 2022, 07:36Most of you have overlooked Ricky Maculay’s reference to reducing the need to use planes to transport the mail.
The attendance patterns in VOCs , RDCs , Mail Centres and Deliveries is heavily reliant on the transport of distance mail by plane. The cessation of the use of planes apart from Northern Ireland will mean the whole window has to move later to ensure the USO connects with delivery in line with Royal Mail’s licence.
Moving that work which would normally go on planes to either road or rail will instantly mean most deliveries will start much later. Those in Scotland , North East and South West will start even later as they are heavily reliant on work from planes connecting to the USO.
This will have a knock on effect to mail centres in particular for inward duties as the work will get to the inward mail centre much later in the night and early morning. Distribution runs , VOCs runs will also be impacted.
Be in no doubt Royal Mails aim to cease the use of planes move the delivery window back to 8-4 or 9-5 window and possibly later in the distant parts of the UK.
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The Channel Islands are run by different postal administrations and not by Royal Mail. However yes they will I assume still have flights.
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Possible options for the Channel Islands if the flights were to be axed:Martin Walsh wrote: ↑22 Apr 2022, 10:50The Channel Islands are run by different postal administrations and not by Royal Mail. However yes they will I assume still have flights.
The Scilly Isles will almost certainly still have to have their mail flown out to themCondor Ferries operate the following routes:
Poole - Guernsey - Jersey (Condor Liberation)
Poole - Guernsey - Cherbourg (Condor Liberation)
Portsmouth - Guernsey - Jersey (Commodore Clipper, Commodore Goodwill)
Jersey and Guernsey - St Malo (Condor Voyager)
Portsmouth - Guernsey - Jersey - St Malo (Commodore Clipper)
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So they want more parcels delivered on foot, good luck with that one.
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Less surely?claretandblue wrote: ↑22 Apr 2022, 12:25So they want more parcels delivered on foot, good luck with that one.
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CWU will never ballot these days ,they should of balloted months ago but will let it drag on for months like they usually do ,corrupter than a Tory boys party.
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Stopping the use of planes to transport pieces of paper around is a no brainer given the direction of travel with most businesses however the USO will not stand still either.
By the time the planes go the USO will be unrecognisable from what it is today and there will be no need to ensure the USO connects with delivery in line with Royal Mail’s licence.
It will be a very different license.
By the time the planes go the USO will be unrecognisable from what it is today and there will be no need to ensure the USO connects with delivery in line with Royal Mail’s licence.
It will be a very different license.
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