Payrise

[grimshaw]

Why on earth would you settle for half of the inflation rate

[k979aaa]

Why on earth would you settle for half of the inflation rate

Maybe he does half the work he should do?

[2yearpostie]

Why on earth would you settle for half of the inflation rate

Cause its better than settling for no rise (or job, or loss of t&c)

[Woody Guthrie]

If you cannot at least keep pace with the cost of living you are effectively taking a pay cut.

This has implications not just for one year but for the rest of your life because every pay rise that follows is obviously a percentage of your base pay.

It even affects your pension because both employee and employers contributions are also a percentage of your base pay.

Accepting a below inflation pay rise for just one year could end up costing members 10s of thousands of pounds over their career.

We accepted a below inflation pay rise last year, it's not something you want to make a habit of.

[2yearpostie]

If you cannot at least keep pace with the cost of living you are effectively taking a pay cut.

This has implications not just for one year but for the rest of your life because every pay rise that follows is obviously a percentage of your base pay.

It even affects your pension because both employee and employers contributions are also a percentage of your base pay.

Accepting a below inflation pay rise for just one year could end up costing members 10s of thousands of pounds over their career.

We accepted a below inflation pay rise last year, it's not something you want to make a habit of.

if the alternative is no rise at all, or loosing members of staff to pay the rest a bigger wage then i dont see whats wrong with accepting it.

[mags999]

are you a dom in disguise or what and dont worry about job losses never happened in all of my 30 odd years and even if they did plenty of takers out there me included

[k979aaa]

Talking yourself down is no way to approach negotiation the price of Stamps and other products that RM sells will go UP 10% in April.

[Hyrrokkin]

If you cannot at least keep pace with the cost of living you are effectively taking a pay cut.

This has implications not just for one year but for the rest of your life because every pay rise that follows is obviously a percentage of your base pay.

It even affects your pension because both employee and employers contributions are also a percentage of your base pay.

Accepting a below inflation pay rise for just one year could end up costing members 10s of thousands of pounds over their career.

We accepted a below inflation pay rise last year, it's not something you want to make a habit of.

if the alternative is no rise at all, or loosing members of staff to pay the rest a bigger wage then i dont see whats wrong with accepting it.

RM have lost thousands over the last few years (for whatever reason - job losses/attrition/natural wastage etc etc
And we still had to accept rubbish pay deals
You either fight your corner or not fight at all

[Woody Guthrie]

if the alternative is no rise at all, or loosing members of staff to pay the rest a bigger wage then i dont see whats wrong with accepting it.

Why would those be alternatives?
They makes no sense as alternatives.

[2yearpostie]

if the alternative is no rise at all, or loosing members of staff to pay the rest a bigger wage then i dont see whats wrong with accepting it.

Why would those be alternatives?
They makes no sense as alternatives.

I really do laugh at you long term rm employees. my old man never had a payrise in 20 years at the private company he worked for as the alternatives ive already suggested were very real to the company he worked at.
With rm already getting rid of 700 managers to save costs i can easily see them saying either no pay this year or make the walks bigger and loose a few postie if you want a rise in order to save the company (a'la p&o style)

[2yearpostie]

are you a dom in disguise or what and dont worry about job losses never happened in all of my 30 odd years and even if they did plenty of takers out there me included

no just someone whos worked in the real worldfor real companies before i got to the sheltered life of working at rm.

[Woody Guthrie]

my old man never had a payrise in 20 years at the private company he worked for

That clearly isn't true.
You do talk some shite.

[greengiant]

if the alternative is no rise at all, or loosing members of staff to pay the rest a bigger wage then i dont see whats wrong with accepting it.

Why would those be alternatives?
They makes no sense as alternatives.

I really do laugh at you long term rm employees. my old man never had a payrise in 20 years at the private company he worked for as the alternatives ive already suggested were very real to the company he worked at.
With rm already getting rid of 700 managers to save costs i can easily see them saying either no pay this year or make the walks bigger and loose a few postie if you want a rise in order to save the company (a'la p&o style)

So you'd be happy with no pay rise, and worse terms and conditions (i.e loss of paid breaks, loss of sick pay)?

[2yearpostie]

my old man never had a payrise in 20 years at the private company he worked for

That clearly isn't true.
You do talk some shite.

Why did you know my old man before he died? did you know the crystal glass industry was paying 1500 a week in gass back when he was working and couldnt afford to payrises as well without the company folding. i doubt it so keep quiet about things you have no idea about please,.

[2yearpostie]

if the alternative is no rise at all, or loosing members of staff to pay the rest a bigger wage then i dont see whats wrong with accepting it.

Why would those be alternatives?
They makes no sense as alternatives.

I really do laugh at you long term rm employees. my old man never had a payrise in 20 years at the private company he worked for as the alternatives ive already suggested were very real to the company he worked at.
With rm already getting rid of 700 managers to save costs i can easily see them saying either no pay this year or make the walks bigger and loose a few postie if you want a rise in order to save the company (a'la p&o style)

So you'd be happy with no pay rise, and worse terms and conditions (i.e loss of paid breaks, loss of sick pay)?

No, please read what ive written properly. Id be happy with a 3.5% rise if it meant we kept our t&cs in place and we kept or grew the number of jobs we currently had.
Id also accept no payrise if we got better t&c and more jobs were created.