Payrise

[heapsy]

Murdoch, how can you include the Delivery supplement? It has nothing to do with hourly rates. That's entirely the point, it is kept separate for a reason. It is a functional allowance. Relating to the job and nothing else, like Night allowance etc.

[blacov]

To be fair its all irrelevant now. Our union leader hinted about the pay rise and it’s all gone quiet. I doubt we are getting anything anyway. It’s all big talk from union and then nothing happens. I love how people trying to justify we are on good pay as its nearing £13 an hour. I bet they are the same people who come in half and hour early everyday and work for free.

[Route1]

Delivery supplement or any other supplement.....I regard it as part to my basic wage.

For posties with more than one years service

£13.10 - (basic pay £12.38 + Delivery Supplement £0.72) per hour upto 37 hours

£12.16 - First 10 hours over 37.

£11.74 - Over first 10 hours.

£13.10 - SA also paid at this rate

[Woody Guthrie]

I don't know why people are so hung up on showing how much we earn to prove a point, we already should know how much we earn, it's on your pay slip.

The point is the gap between what we earn and other less physically demanding unskilled jobs is closing especially taking into account overtime rates and the more it closes the harder it will be to recruit and retain staff. Throw the management incompetence and s**t weather into the equation and obviously you have a problem.

That's basic stuff and doesn't require pages and pages of back and forward arguments.

[crimson king]

I don't know why people are so hung up on showing how much we earn to prove a point, we already should know how much we earn, it's on your pay slip.

The point is the gap between what we earn and other less physically demanding unskilled jobs is closing especially taking into account overtime rates and the more it closes the harder it will be to recruit and retain staff. Throw the management incompetence and s**t weather into the equation and obviously you have a problem.

That's basic stuff and doesn't require pages and pages of back and forward arguments.

I despair, hearing and reading colleagues defending our wonderful hourly wage for an unskilled job.

This is exactly why, come September or whenever, another shite deal will be voted in after thy are blinded by the lure of that couple of percent backdated to April.

[Dorset Plodder]

I don't know why people are so hung up on showing how much we earn to prove a point, we already should know how much we earn, it's on your pay slip.

The point is the gap between what we earn and other less physically demanding unskilled jobs is closing especially taking into account overtime rates and the more it closes the harder it will be to recruit and retain staff. Throw the management incompetence and s**t weather into the equation and obviously you have a problem.

That's basic stuff and doesn't require pages and pages of back and forward arguments.

[datasaint]

The point is the gap between what we earn and other less physically demanding unskilled jobs is closing especially taking into account overtime rates and the more it closes the harder it will be to recruit and retain staff.

None of these points are of any concern to the company though that's the issue.

If you have a more casual workforce, on lower pay, then they're less likely to be unionised, and they can reduce the terms and conditions, much like how Amazon logistics must work, whenever I get a delivery from them it's a different driver.

So I really don't think staff retention is high on their agenda, with the PDAs and autoroute anybody can deliver a van load of parcels nowadays, hence the influx of agency staff.

[Woody Guthrie]

The business doesn't want casual staff, they're very expensive.
The business doesn't want a high turnover of staff, again it's very expensive.
Of course cost is an issue for the business.
Staff retention is one of the biggest issues facing the business.

[Clappedoutpostie]

with the PDAs and autoroute anybody can deliver a van load of parcels nowadays, hence the influx of agency staff.

You would think so but I have seen so many people come and go in the last year that I don’t agree. As has already been pointed out it must be costing them a fortune in recruitment and reputation.

[clashcityrocker]

at this moment is the opening moves concerning the next fast approaching pay deal to be struck between RMG and the CWU.
As always the CWU has gone in high...I believe they are seeking a 6 - 8% pay increase.
No chance of that! But I am led to believe that they (CWU) would settle for the two outstanding hours and something a little over 2%.

Sounds fair enough to me. I would vote in favour of that.

This is from a poster on Royal Mail Share Chat.
I have no idea if he can back his claim up or what the source of his information is but if the union hierarchy are willing to settle for 2% and the final move to a 35 hour week they might find the rank and file voting with their feet.

[toonshola]

at this moment is the opening moves concerning the next fast approaching pay deal to be struck between RMG and the CWU.
As always the CWU has gone in high...I believe they are seeking a 6 - 8% pay increase.
No chance of that! But I am led to believe that they (CWU) would settle for the two outstanding hours and something a little over 2%.

Sounds fair enough to me. I would vote in favour of that.

This is from a poster on Royal Mail Share Chat.
I have no idea if he can back his claim up or what the source of his information is but if the union hierarchy are willing to settle for 2% and the final move to a 35 hour week they might find the rank and file voting with their feet.

If that 35 hour week comes with the chance of four day weeks on delivery then I’m in.

[WalkerX]

When you're comparing pay you have to factor in the overtime rate and the fact that in a less physically demanding job you're probably going to be able to do more of it.

Also there's my chiropractor bill and my reiki massage therapist to pay, then there's my psychologist and my spirit guide all trying to heal my mind and body from this s**t show of a job, it all costs.

Also the hard drugs...

[masterblaster]

Any pay rise will have to be far greater that the rise in the minimum wage in April, which goes from £8.91 to £9.51, closing the gap considerably on the starting rate of £10.85, otherwise the job will not attract people

Or the only people applying will be 'unable' to do the job at any sort of speed.

[Cucumber]

at this moment is the opening moves concerning the next fast approaching pay deal to be struck between RMG and the CWU.
As always the CWU has gone in high...I believe they are seeking a 6 - 8% pay increase.
No chance of that! But I am led to believe that they (CWU) would settle for the two outstanding hours and something a little over 2%.

Sounds fair enough to me. I would vote in favour of that.

This is from a poster on Royal Mail Share Chat.
I have no idea if he can back his claim up or what the source of his information is but if the union hierarchy are willing to settle for 2% and the final move to a 35 hour week they might find the rank and file voting with their feet.

Leaving aside the insult of a well below inflation 2%, those in the CWU top jobs need to come into each DO and explain how 40 plus hours work per week is supposed to fit into 35.

[Woody Guthrie]

Gonna get on to the gas people and tell them I'm paying them in minutes this month from my 35hr week.

So I get to spend an extra 2 hours a week doing f**k all at home because I can't afford to?
At least the office has free heating and electricity, a pool table and a TV licence (I think).

I've just had a genius idea, open up DOs at night for homeless posties, I'm going straight on to Faceplace or WorkBook or whatever they call it with this one, it's a winner.