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RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

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ronaldinho0097
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by ronaldinho0097 »

clashcityrocker wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 16:39
ronaldinho0097 wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 16:26
Customers don't want to be hassled with a photo upon delivery.
They don't want to be hassled with signing for items either.
Should we just make up our own rules about that as well?

This whole thread is embarrassing. It is full of people moaning about having to do their job properly.
If it is going to cause so many problems people will quickly learn how to add instructions to their parcels and navigate the inflight options.
When you work under people who don't do their job properly, it sets a trend. Our entire office is at it. Customer still gets their parcel either way.
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by clashcityrocker »

ronaldinho0097 wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 16:42


When you work under people who don't do their job properly, it sets a trend. Our entire office is at it. Customer still gets their parcel either way.
1000 denials of receipt every week would suggest there is a problem with your way of working.

Now all the customer needs to do is to formalise the unofficial arrangements which will protect your job and our reputation.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
ronaldinho0097
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by ronaldinho0097 »

clashcityrocker wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 16:56

1000 denials of receipt every week would suggest there is a problem with your way of working.

Now all the customer needs to do is to formalise the unofficial arrangements which will protect your job and our reputation.
How do you know what my way of working is?

I've never had a denial of receipt. I take time and find a secure place for my customers parcels if they're not in. If such a place isn't available then 739 it is. They're never left in plain sight.

If a problem does arise then I am ready to face the consequences if I need to. I'm not living in fear of getting the sack.
F33N7
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by F33N7 »

basically the past few days have you all just been taking photos with the door open, if not p739 and back to the office? I am a reserve who covers duties so don’t know a lot of customers well enough anyway but I know a few duties have all there postie relationship safe places.

What you all been doing since it went live.
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by TopperGas »

F33N7 wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 18:19
basically the past few days have you all just been taking photos with the door open, if not p739 and back to the office? I am a reserve who covers duties so don’t know a lot of customers well enough anyway but I know a few duties have all there postie relationship safe places.

What you all been doing since it went live.
Just the same as we've been doing already with Boohoo etc parcels, tell the customer I need to take a photo, then take a photo, given DPD etc already do it most customers are already familiar with the process and I've not had one query it so far. If they are out then try a helpful neighbour, otherwise issue a 739, hopefully customers will soon learn they need to nominate a safe place if they are going to be out, if not they'll keep getting 739's.
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by clashcityrocker »

ronaldinho0097 wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 17:19

How do you know what my way of working is?
Because you told us:

I've just been taking pics of the parcel with the closed front door and it's number. I know it's not the correct procedure but quite frankly, with all the other s**t that goes on in my office, I don't care. I know my customers and I know who wants a packet/parcel left behind their plant pot on the front doorstep and who doesn't.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by SpacePhoenix »

clashcityrocker wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 19:29
ronaldinho0097 wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 17:19

How do you know what my way of working is?
Because you told us:

I've just been taking pics of the parcel with the closed front door and it's number. I know it's not the correct procedure but quite frankly, with all the other s**t that goes on in my office, I don't care. I know my customers and I know who wants a packet/parcel left behind their plant pot on the front doorstep and who doesn't.
Easy pickings for a sacking, RM could deem it to be evidence of doorstepping
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by masterblaster »

clashcityrocker wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 16:39
ronaldinho0097 wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 16:26
Customers don't want to be hassled with a photo upon delivery.
They don't want to be hassled with signing for items either.
Should we just make up our own rules about that as well?

This whole thread is embarrassing. It is full of people moaning about having to do their job properly.
If it is going to cause so many problems people will quickly learn how to add instructions to their parcels and navigate the inflight options.
Delivery has changed so much over the past 20 years, that for some it isn't what they took on when they elected to have a 'career' with RM.
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by Mr Rush »

masterblaster wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 20:05
Delivery has changed so much over the past 20 years, that for some it isn't what they took on when they elected to have a 'career' with RM.
Indeed. They might as well rename the company Parcel Force if this is the way it's going to be.
The machine stops.
ronaldinho0097
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by ronaldinho0097 »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 19:48
clashcityrocker wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 19:29
ronaldinho0097 wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 17:19

How do you know what my way of working is?
Because you told us:

I've just been taking pics of the parcel with the closed front door and it's number. I know it's not the correct procedure but quite frankly, with all the other s**t that goes on in my office, I don't care. I know my customers and I know who wants a packet/parcel left behind their plant pot on the front doorstep and who doesn't.
Easy pickings for a sacking, RM could deem it to be evidence of doorstepping
It is actually encouraged in our place mate. Got laughed at when brining back 10+ noticed tracked parcels to the DO when I first started. Management's response ''Just leave it behind a plant pot if they aren't in, or under the doormat.''

This is the culture within our office.
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by postslippete »

Just slip it if they aren't in

Simple


That is your only get out of jail free card.

You doorstep items, you're buggered. You leave items in so called safe places, you're buggered. You tell half naked customers to get some clothes on, put their dog away and open the door properly just so that you can take a decent pic might be the only plausible reason for not getting a good shot there and then, but its not going to happen every time.

Just the 1% of the 99% of the time
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by postieblueshirt »

clashcityrocker wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 16:39
ronaldinho0097 wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 16:26
Customers don't want to be hassled with a photo upon delivery.
They don't want to be hassled with signing for items either.
Should we just make up our own rules about that as well?

This whole thread is embarrassing. It is full of people moaning about having to do their job properly.
If it is going to cause so many problems people will quickly learn how to add instructions to their parcels and navigate the inflight options.
Signed for tracked items don't ask for a photo they still work as always input name and it wants a signature I thought the point of this was to do away with signing.But it has to be said taking a photo with it hanging out the letterbox is the most stupid instruction ever,all that proves is I half delivered a parcel.
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by SpacePhoenix »

ronaldinho0097 wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 20:40
SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 19:48
clashcityrocker wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 19:29
ronaldinho0097 wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 17:19

How do you know what my way of working is?
Because you told us:

I've just been taking pics of the parcel with the closed front door and it's number. I know it's not the correct procedure but quite frankly, with all the other s**t that goes on in my office, I don't care. I know my customers and I know who wants a packet/parcel left behind their plant pot on the front doorstep and who doesn't.
Easy pickings for a sacking, RM could deem it to be evidence of doorstepping
It is actually encouraged in our place mate. Got laughed at when brining back 10+ noticed tracked parcels to the DO when I first started. Management's response ''Just leave it behind a plant pot if they aren't in, or under the doormat.''

This is the culture within our office.
RM must have people reviewing the photos, if too many from any given DO look like they've been doorstepped then the DOM will get a major bollocking
Wolf91
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Re: RMCtv : Photo Capture on Delivery : All Tracked 24 &48 [non signature items] require a photo : Green light go-ahead for Thursday 10th March

Post by Wolf91 »

ronaldinho0097 wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 20:40
SpacePhoenix wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 19:48
clashcityrocker wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 19:29
ronaldinho0097 wrote:
12 Mar 2022, 17:19

How do you know what my way of working is?
Because you told us:

I've just been taking pics of the parcel with the closed front door and it's number. I know it's not the correct procedure but quite frankly, with all the other s**t that goes on in my office, I don't care. I know my customers and I know who wants a packet/parcel left behind their plant pot on the front doorstep and who doesn't.
Easy pickings for a sacking, RM could deem it to be evidence of doorstepping
It is actually encouraged in our place mate. Got laughed at when brining back 10+ noticed tracked parcels to the DO when I first started. Management's response ''Just leave it behind a plant pot if they aren't in, or under the doormat.''

This is the culture within our office.
Ours is pretty similar. Even management know it, just can’t be seen to be saying it. They want you to get rid of the parcels. That’s what the customer wants and ultimately what the company also wants, for right or wrong.
Even Simon said he wants “100%” first time delivery, which is a laughable pipedream, but that shows the mentality from the very top. The official way of doing things actually contradicts what they want, so it’s a lose - lose really
for OPGs and If anything goes wrong, it falls on our doorstep (no pun intended).
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Post by postieblueshirt »

Our team talk the day it went live was keep doing what your doing you know your customers.