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[Clappedoutpostie]

Sunday working will almost certainly be brought in, maybe half doing it one week, half the next and then alternating

What a load of nonsense.

[SpacePhoenix]

They won't have to make everyone work Sundays, all the new starters have Sundays in their contracts and people are volunteering to work Sundays anyway. They don t need to force people to do them so they won't. And our hours won't be increasing, if all else fails when mc lose all the parcel work to the hubs they can make the surplus staff do parcels on a Sunday

What excess staff? We have loads of casuals in some days, RM would just cut down on the number of casuals

According to Google there are 1,400 delivery offices in the UK so if you divide that by the parcel hubs then that's approx 466 output selections that the parcel hubs will need and I doubt they have that so the parcels will still have to be sorted again at MCs

Non drivers wouldnt be working sundays either

What will happen if a DO doesn't have at least half its staff as drivers? If it doesn't then they'll be forced to either get some new starts in or force people to do driving

[Martin Walsh]

That is not the plan. When Warrington goes live the automation will sort format 3&4 parcels to circa 320 Delivery units. They will cross docked in mail centres and therefore mail centres will see a reduction in their inward.

If your within the catchment area of either Warrington or the new Midlands Hub then those mail centres will lose circa 25% of outward.

Royal Mail’s previous policy was that the circa 300 delivery offices would delivery the format 3&4 parcels.

The CWU policy is to perform a manual breakdown in the Delivery office to ensure each of the Delivery offices within the catchment area delivers their own parcels.

[DGH]

The CWU policy is to perform a manual breakdown in the Delivery office to ensure each of the Delivery offices within the catchment area delivers their own parcels.

Do you mean that one 'chosen' delivery office will receive all the larger packets for its area (including other offices that may be a considerable distance away). And that 'chosen office' will segregate those packets and distribute them to these other offices? Are they going to have extra staff and vans to do that?

[Martin Walsh]

Yes as the automation in Warrington can only sort to circa 360 selections.

There are 1286 Delivery Offices ( some in the same building )

[citypostie]

Yes as the automation in Warrington can only sort to circa 360 selections.

There are 1286 Delivery Offices ( some in the same building )

This just sounds like another thing that royal mail is bringing in that instead of making things more efficient will end up being the exact opposite! What's the point of the super duper new hubs if after they've sorted parcels by machine they have to go somewhere else to be manually sorted before being sent to another office?

[wallan]

Yes as the automation in Warrington can only sort to circa 360 selections.

There are 1286 Delivery Offices ( some in the same building )

Then why not ues the existing inward M C to distribute the items

[Cedar_Room]

Yes as the automation in Warrington can only sort to circa 360 selections.

There are 1286 Delivery Offices ( some in the same building )

This just sounds like another thing that royal mail is bringing in that instead of making things more efficient will end up being the exact opposite! What's the point of the super duper new hubs if after they've sorted parcels by machine they have to go somewhere else to be manually sorted before being sent to another office?

You really couldn’t make this stuff up,eh?

[Martin Walsh]

Wallan the work will be automated from the hub to the main delivery office so why would Royal Mail then resort these parcels to the separate offices and then run vehicles to the different offices ?

When It can be taken straight to the Delivery office after being crossed docked ?

[wallan]

Wallan the work will be automated from the hub to the main delivery office so why would Royal Mail then resort these parcels to the separate offices and then run vehicles to the different offices ?

When It can be taken straight to the Delivery office after being crossed docked ?

Thats how it should be ,it would seem that in some instances the LAT Offices are going to distribute the items to the Local DO for Delivery

[SpacePhoenix]

Yes as the automation in Warrington can only sort to circa 360 selections.

There are 1286 Delivery Offices ( some in the same building )

Even with just 1,286 DOs that still falls short of the number of selections required (about 430 if you divide the number of DOs by the number of the hubs). That's not taking into account any splits that DOs get so you could potentially get another 50-100+ extra selections required.

Both the union and RM can dream on if they think that the mail won't need to be resorted in MCs

[Martin Walsh]

Space format 3 and 4 parcels will no longer be done in mail centres and instead will be done by parcel hub automation.

Royal Mail strategy is to have these sent to circa 300 large delivery offices and then deliver to all of us postcodes from the one large office. They believe this strategy will make the LAT product more viable. These will not be processed by mail centres and will only be cross docked.

The CWU strategy is to ensure that the majority of these format 3&4 parcels remain on the core delivery to prevent wholesale later starts. The CWU believe work can be divided manually in the large offices in a bulk ring and then dispatched to the right full delivery office.

[heathrow86]

So where does that leave the hgv VOCs? Not the ones attached to the parcel hubs? Surely they won't all be needed?

[Martin Walsh]

HGVs will still be needed as they will cross dock in mail centre. However the new Midlands Hub will have a rail line which will run north to Scotland and will reduce the number of HGVs going that way.

[CharlesG]

1. Our LAT office would not be able to accommodate all parcels it would receive for 14 different postcodes.
2. LATs are currently being delivered to individual offices at 1pm approx daily and then rolled over to next day in VAST majority of offices, so in our area LATS are not delivered.

Also what is a space format 3 & 4 parcel when its at home?