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Payrise

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daveyeff
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Re: Payrise

Post by daveyeff »

take the break time off would leave less than 32 hours per week working time. they can't keep a 32 hr working week to 5 days. it would mean a 6 hour 24min working day which won't happen.
Last edited by daveyeff on 21 Feb 2022, 18:37, edited 2 times in total.
Cucumber
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Re: Payrise

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35 hours per week also translates as 70 hour fortnights, which would make 9 day fortnights far more appealing to RM.
Plus any dropping of days per week/fortnight would come with strings attached.
1 out of every 3 Sundays anyone?

Just my view.
daveyeff
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Re: Payrise

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well thats what the ''negotiators'' are there for. :Very Happy
citypostie
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Re: Payrise

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If they make all days6 hour 59 minute day the break entitlement goes down to 30 minutes so theres a 35 hour week over 5 days including your break
A2B
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Re: Payrise

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daveyeff wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 18:10
take the break time off would leave less than 32 hours per week working time. they can't keep a 32 hr working week to 5 days. it would mean a 5 hour 24min working day which won't happen.
Like many others i'd love a four day week but i just can't see it happening
daveyeff
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Re: Payrise

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citypostie wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 18:21
If they make all days6 hour 59 minute day the break entitlement goes down to 30 minutes so theres a 35 hour week over 5 days including your break
the job can't be done done properly in 8 hours never mind 6.5. they will still have a 6 day service but split between people. when you are not working someone else will be.
A2B
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Re: Payrise

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daveyeff wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 18:20
well thats what the ''negotiators'' are there for. :Very Happy
Not instrested in any pay deal involving Sunday working
HTPostman
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Re: Payrise

Post by HTPostman »

A2B wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 19:00
daveyeff wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 18:20
well thats what the ''negotiators'' are there for. :Very Happy
Not instrested in any pay deal involving Sunday working
Snap. If Sunday working is brought in across the board (and yes I know it already exists in RM) I’m out of here.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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citypostie
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Re: Payrise

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daveyeff wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 18:42
citypostie wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 18:21
If they make all days6 hour 59 minute day the break entitlement goes down to 30 minutes so theres a 35 hour week over 5 days including your break
the job can't be done done properly in 8 hours never mind 6.5. they will still have a 6 day service but split between people. when you are not working someone else will be.
I hope your right,I'd love a 4 day week . It was manager seemed very confident we would get to 35 hours but was also confident we would pay for it with our breaks
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Payrise

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citypostie wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 19:12
daveyeff wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 18:42
citypostie wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 18:21
If they make all days6 hour 59 minute day the break entitlement goes down to 30 minutes so theres a 35 hour week over 5 days including your break
the job can't be done done properly in 8 hours never mind 6.5. they will still have a 6 day service but split between people. when you are not working someone else will be.
I hope your right,I'd love a 4 day week . It was manager seemed very confident we would get to 35 hours but was also confident we would pay for it with our breaks
Sunday working will almost certainly be brought in, maybe half doing it one week, half the next and then alternating
FirstPost
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Re: Payrise

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SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 19:31
citypostie wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 19:12
daveyeff wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 18:42
citypostie wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 18:21
If they make all days6 hour 59 minute day the break entitlement goes down to 30 minutes so theres a 35 hour week over 5 days including your break
the job can't be done done properly in 8 hours never mind 6.5. they will still have a 6 day service but split between people. when you are not working someone else will be.
I hope your right,I'd love a 4 day week . It was manager seemed very confident we would get to 35 hours but was also confident we would pay for it with our breaks
Sunday working will almost certainly be brought in, maybe half doing it one week, half the next and then alternating
In that case can you see many people running for the door or not?
SpacePhoenix
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Re: Payrise

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FirstPost wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 19:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 19:31
citypostie wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 19:12
daveyeff wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 18:42
citypostie wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 18:21
If they make all days6 hour 59 minute day the break entitlement goes down to 30 minutes so theres a 35 hour week over 5 days including your break
the job can't be done done properly in 8 hours never mind 6.5. they will still have a 6 day service but split between people. when you are not working someone else will be.
I hope your right,I'd love a 4 day week . It was manager seemed very confident we would get to 35 hours but was also confident we would pay for it with our breaks
Sunday working will almost certainly be brought in, maybe half doing it one week, half the next and then alternating
In that case can you see many people running for the door or not?
Realistically it's going to be either that or RM add the hours back to the working week (probably making the working week in deliveries at least 43-43 hours long), so deliveries effectively end up on a lower pay rate
A2B
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Re: Payrise

Post by A2B »

SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 19:46
FirstPost wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 19:38
SpacePhoenix wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 19:31

Realistically it's going to be either that or RM add the hours back to the working week (probably making the working week in deliveries at least 43-43 hours long), so deliveries effectively end up on a lower pay rate
Is it April 1st already?🤣
citypostie
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Re: Payrise

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They won't have to make everyone work Sundays, all the new starters have Sundays in their contracts and people are volunteering to work Sundays anyway. They don t need to force people to do them so they won't. And our hours won't be increasing, if all else fails when mc lose all the parcel work to the hubs they can make the surplus staff do parcels on a Sunday
daveyeff
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Re: Payrise

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Non drivers wouldnt be working sundays either