Payrise

[POSTMAN]

I don't get where we have to be compared to other professions, Simon mentioned an airline pilot ffs a while back, and then we have Doris at Asda (RMCtv : Royal Mail pay better than Doris's at Asda on checkout 3)
We can't go down the route of nonproper unionised industries and why should we.
I don't care what a teacher earns v a postie, a nurse v a postie ect
Caring does not pay the bills.

[chickenwittle]

I do wonder about posties that moan about dropping down to a 35 hr week with no loss in pay , only in Royal Mail.

[mjd24]

I do wonder about posties that moan about dropping down to a 35 hr week with no loss in pay , only in Royal Mail.

And you cant see the reasoning behind why theyre “moaning”?

[toonshola]

I do wonder about posties that moan about dropping down to a 35 hr week with no loss in pay , only in Royal Mail.

And you cant see the reasoning behind why theyre “moaning”?

I’ll chime in here if I may. I can’t see the downside in a 35 hour working week. Benefits part timers as the hourly rate increases and full timers get an extra 24 mins in bed for the same pay. Yes we all know the work won’t be achievable in the shorter time but guess what it isn’t now anyway, come in on time take breaks and don’t run round then either leave stuff in or book the extra overtime.
What’s the alternative that people want here, a 40 hour week with the same pay just so we can complete the ridiculous workload? No thanks.
The jobs f****d anyway so we might aswell spend more time outside of it.

[chickenwittle]

I do wonder about posties that moan about dropping down to a 35 hr week with no loss in pay , only in Royal Mail.

And you cant see the reasoning behind why theyre “moaning”?

I’ll chime in here if I may. I can’t see the downside in a 35 hour working week. Benefits part timers as the hourly rate increases and full timers get an extra 24 mins in bed for the same pay. Yes we all know the work won’t be achievable in the shorter time but guess what it isn’t now anyway, come in on time take breaks and don’t run round then either leave stuff in or book the extra overtime.
What’s the alternative that people want here, a 40 hour week with the same pay just so we can complete the ridiculous workload? No thanks.
The jobs f****d anyway so we might aswell spend more time outside of it.

Nail on the head , what part of this are posties not getting.

[mjd24]

I do wonder about posties that moan about dropping down to a 35 hr week with no loss in pay , only in Royal Mail.

And you cant see the reasoning behind why theyre “moaning”?

I’ll chime in here if I may. I can’t see the downside in a 35 hour working week. Benefits part timers as the hourly rate increases and full timers get an extra 24 mins in bed for the same pay. Yes we all know the work won’t be achievable in the shorter time but guess what it isn’t now anyway, come in on time take breaks and don’t run round then either leave stuff in or book the extra overtime.
What’s the alternative that people want here, a 40 hour week with the same pay just so we can complete the ridiculous workload? No thanks.
The jobs f****d anyway so we might aswell spend more time outside of it.

Isnt it more the fact that the reduction in hours isnt resulting in our take home pay increasing.

Im not against the 35 hour week at all, just pointing out why some are.

[rogersh]

Looking at the previous pay deal;
2.7% backdated to April 2020
1% April 2021
Hour Reduction October 2021 (2.6% increase in the hourly rate)

So I expect a two year deal is likely & will incorporate the two hour reduction (5.2%) plus a further %.

[FirstPost]

Looking at the previous pay deal;
2.7% backdated to April 2020
1% April 2021
Hour Reduction October 2021 (2.6% increase in the hourly rate)

So I expect a two year deal is likely & will incorporate the two hour reduction (5.2%) plus a further %.

Isn't the 35hr reduction already agreed to happen? I mean, using this as an excuse to say "here, you've had 2hrs off, that's your pay rise" doesn't really cut it

[chickenwittle]

I do wonder about posties that moan about dropping down to a 35 hr week with no loss in pay , only in Royal Mail.

And you cant see the reasoning behind why theyre “moaning”?

I’ll chime in here if I may. I can’t see the downside in a 35 hour working week. Benefits part timers as the hourly rate increases and full timers get an extra 24 mins in bed for the same pay. Yes we all know the work won’t be achievable in the shorter time but guess what it isn’t now anyway, come in on time take breaks and don’t run round then either leave stuff in or book the extra overtime.
What’s the alternative that people want here, a 40 hour week with the same pay just so we can complete the ridiculous workload? No thanks.
The jobs f****d anyway so we might aswell spend more time outside of it.

Isnt it more the fact that the reduction in hours isnt resulting in our take home pay increasing.

Im not against the 35 hour week at all, just pointing out why some are.

But we have been getting pay rises along with the reduction in hours . A lot of posties are moaning about the 35hr week because they won’t be able to complete their duties , that’s royal mails problem not ours .

[fatfeet]

Regarding the last hourly reduction!

Full timers hours were reduced without loss in pay. Part timers were given an increase in pay because the full timers were effectively getting a pay increase. Has this resulted in different pay scales?

[Cedar_Room]

Regarding the last hourly reduction!

Full timers hours were reduced without loss in pay. Part timers were given an increase in pay because the full timers were effectively getting a pay increase. Has this resulted in different pay scales?

No.

[norris9]

Payrise is needed as cost of living is through the roof, how the minimum wage hasn't reached £15 an hour by now - I don't know. The cost of a house v wages is so out of sync.

So yes - we are paid a pittance compared to living costs. Posties are leaving left right and centre because they are harassed and the job is exhausting.

If they don't give us a pay rise - give us an extra weeks paid holiday instead.... we need the rest.

[daveyeff]

In my opinion too a shorter working week is just not going to be a viable option for us. We can't complete our rounds during 37-38hour week so losing more hours is just not going to work. We all need a decent pay rise and overtime pay revision too.
This should be the only goal for CWU.
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Inflation around 6% mark and is likely to climb even higher pushing living costs ridiculously high. I know many of us live already from pay check to pay check and have to battle everyday with unmanageable workloads and bullying managers. This is getting serious now, people are already at breaking point physically and mentally and rising livings costs combined with lack of proper pay rise is going to be the last straw for many.

if we go down to 35 hours it stands to reason we will also go to a 4 day working week.

[daveyeff]

So inflation is now at 5.6% and bank of england saying they expect it to hit 7% by spring.

We'll get 4% if we're lucky, which is half of what we should be getting.

8% may sound astronomical to some, but by the time April comes and inflation is at 7% it's only 1% above...

if we got 4% it would equate to about 13 quid in your hand after tax and n.i, .....which is £676 per year. the gas and lecky is going up £700 per year, effectively wiping out our 4% payrise.

[A2B]

if we go down to 35 hours it stands to reason we will also go to a 4 day working week.

What makes you think that?