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On a duty for 2 years

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Re: On a duty for 2 years

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SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
23 Jan 2022, 20:44
Why don't DOs do resigns based on the outdoor element only with full timers automatically having indoor stuff added to whatever duty they sign for? It can't make any difference whether it's a PT or FT doing the outdoor element
This is how its done in our office. Seniority where anyone can go for any duty as the outdoor element is the "same". FT does the prep for all duties, PT come in to a prepped frame.

Needless to say all the ft are paired together & and the pt are paired together.
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Re: On a duty for 2 years

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Dorset Plodder wrote: ↑
23 Jan 2022, 22:10
SpacePhoenix wrote: ↑
23 Jan 2022, 20:44
Why don't DOs do resigns based on the outdoor element only with full timers automatically having indoor stuff added to whatever duty they sign for? It can't make any difference whether it's a PT or FT doing the outdoor element
There is no Common Sense or Logic in this Business anymore SP. In Theory that would work I think ....... BUT you've got to factor in the "Lazy Bastard" Factor. :hmmmm

PT Duties are meant to be prepped by FTers in most cases. That's why Van Shares normally have one FT & one PT partner. The FTer prepping nearly both sides and the PTer coming in at a later start time and having the majority of his side of the duty prepped. :left:

In reality the "Lazy Bastard" Factor kicks in. :no no The FTer makes sure he preps all his own side and then preps some of the PTers, then he takes advantage of the fact that his Van Share partner hasn't arrived yet to have a wander about and a chat to his mates. Perhaps he'll prep a bit more of his partners side. Then when his partner turns up at his later start time he'll say, "Oh I didn't have enough time to prep it all mate". Then as his partner is throwing off what remains .. IPS ... Tracked ... and parcels he'll take the opportunity to wander around chatting to his mates again and getting a cup of tea, moaning about how he's ready to go out but his partner is so slow at throwing their duty off. :no no

There are obviously some good FTers who do a proper job of prepping, and the Van Shares work well. However you can see how the FT/PT system is open to abuse. :cuppa
That sounds familiar. Even worse when sharing with a FT non-driver. Still, more o/t for me *rubs hands*
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Re: On a duty for 2 years

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Dorset Plodder wrote: ↑
23 Jan 2022, 22:10

There is no Common Sense or Logic in this Business anymore SP. In Theory that would work I think ....... BUT you've got to factor in the "Lazy Bastard" Factor. :hmmmm

PT Duties are meant to be prepped by FTers in most cases. That's why Van Shares normally have one FT & one PT partner. The FTer prepping nearly both sides and the PTer coming in at a later start time and having the majority of his side of the duty prepped. :left:

In reality the "Lazy Bastard" Factor kicks in. :no no The FTer makes sure he preps all his own side and then preps some of the PTers, then he takes advantage of the fact that his Van Share partner hasn't arrived yet to have a wander about and a chat to his mates. Perhaps he'll prep a bit more of his partners side. Then when his partner turns up at his later start time he'll say, "Oh I didn't have enough time to prep it all mate". Then as his partner is throwing off what remains .. IPS ... Tracked ... and parcels he'll take the opportunity to wander around chatting to his mates again and getting a cup of tea, moaning about how he's ready to go out but his partner is so slow at throwing their duty off. :no no

There are obviously some good FTers who do a proper job of prepping, and the Van Shares work well. However you can see how the FT/PT system is open to abuse. :cuppa

Totally agree Dorset. You get what you call a lazy bastard full-timer who only puts the 1st wave of mech in another frame and in future work plans gets tasked with just prepping their own duty whilst some other guy still has to fully prep two duties. If you're good at your job you get penalised. But if you're deliberately slow like you've mentioned you can invariably get away with murder. Its funny how the ones who are only prepping their own duty are first out the door as well.
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Re: On a duty for 2 years

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There is a "Lazy Bastard" factor in the business because of lazy managers who are fricken useless as well.
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