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What are the Covid self-isolation rules now?

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Check the link for up to date info : Updated 13 Jan

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-54239922

People with Covid in England will be able to end self-isolation after five full days, Health Secretary Sajid Javid has said.

Across the UK, the self-isolation period had already been reduced to seven full days, but it is not clear whether all nations will implement the latest reduction.

What are the new self-isolation rules for people with Covid in England?

Anyone who develops symptoms or tests positive for Covid must immediately self-isolate.

From Monday 17 January, people who test positive will be able to leave self-isolation after a further five full days, subject to having two negative LFT results, 24 hours apart.

The day symptoms begin or you test positive is day zero. The next day is day one of your isolation period.

You can take your first test on day five. If it is negative, you can take another test 24 hours later on day six. Assuming this is also negative - and you do not have a temperature - you can immediately leave isolation.

The rules apply whether you are vaccinated or not.

Health Secretary Sajid Javid said the change would "maximise activity in the economy and education" while also minimising the risk of infection from people leaving isolation.

He told MPs that data from the UK Health Security Agency shows about two-thirds of positive cases are no longer infectious by the end of day five.

However, the data also shows that the current policy of releasing people on day seven day after two negative tests means about two in five infectious cases are missed. It is not clear what effect this further reduction to the self-isolation period will have.

What are the self-isolation rules for people with Covid across the rest of the UK?

In Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (and England until Monday) you must self-isolate for at least seven days as soon as symptoms develop, or - if you have no symptoms - when you test positive.

In addition, people without symptoms who have a positive LFT result no longer have to take a PCR test to confirm their status but should immediately start isolating. Clinically vulnerable people in Wales and Northern Ireland are still advised to take a PCR.

The new testing guidance will stay in place while Covid case levels remain high, because the vast majority of people with positive LFT results at the moment are extremely likely to have coronavirus.

Whichever type of positive test result you had, you can end self-isolation after two negative LFT results, 24 hours apart - the first no earlier than day six. As long as you do not have a high temperature, you can stop self-isolating after the second negative test, on day seven.

If the day-six test is positive, you can take two further tests on subsequent days, and - as long as you don't have a fever - you can stop isolating once you have had two negative results, 24 hours apart.

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The guidance applies whatever your vaccination status, or whichever Covid variant you have.

However, anyone leaving self-isolation after seven days is "strongly advised" to limit close contact with people in crowded or poorly ventilated spaces.

They should work from home and minimise contact with anyone who is at higher risk of severe illness.

How do I get a lateral flow or PCR Covid test? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51943612

What are the self-isolation rules for contacts of people with Covid?
The rules about self-isolation after contact with a positive case are broadly similar across the UK.

If you are fully vaccinated (two doses - three in Scotland), you do not have to self-isolate, but should take daily LFTs for seven days (or until 10 days since your last contact, if this is earlier).

This also applies to people under the age of 18 (18 years and four months in Scotland; 18 years and six months in England).

If any of the LFTs are positive, you'll need to self-isolate from the date of the test but no longer need to take a PCR test to confirm the result.

Close contacts of positive cases who are not fully vaccinated still have to self-isolate for the full 10 days. In Scotland, they are advised to take one PCR test and continue isolating even if the result is negative.

In Wales, unvaccinated contacts are advised to take LFTs on days two and eight, even if they have no symptoms.

Anyone who develops Covid symptoms during self-isolation should take a PCR test.

Self-isolation rules in England : https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -infection
Self-isolation rules in Scotland : https://www.nhsinform.scot/illnesses-an ... -infection
Self-isolation rules in Wales : https://gov.wales/self-isolation
Self-isolation rules in Northern Ireland : https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/co ... e-contacts

What does self-isolation mean?
Self-isolation means staying at home and not going out.

Adults shouldn't go into work and children shouldn't go to school.

You should order online groceries, or ask friends or family to deliver supplies.

No-one from outside your household should come inside, unless to deliver essential care.

If you have symptoms or test positive, you should:

Keep your distance from other members of your household
Leave windows open to improve ventilation
If possible, sleep and eat in a different room, and use a separate bathroom
If you share a bathroom, use it after everyone else and clean it thoroughly
If you do not follow the rules on self-isolation, you can be fined. In England, penalties start at £1,000 and rise to £10,000.

People on a low income who are told to isolate by one of the UK's tracing services may be entitled to some financial help:

a £500 test and trace payment in England : https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ent-scheme
a £500 self-isolation support grant in Scotland : https://www.mygov.scot/self-isolation-grant
a £750 self-isolation support scheme payment in Wales : https://gov.wales/self-isolation-support-scheme
a discretionary support self-isolation grant in Northern Ireland : https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/ex ... port#toc-4
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59878823

Covid: PCR not needed after positive lateral flow under new plans

Covid testing rules are to be eased for people without symptoms, who will no longer need to confirm a positive lateral flow test with a PCR.

The UK Health Security Agency said the change will come in from 11 January in England.

While Covid levels are high, people can be confident that rapid tests are highly accurate, it added.

The change will be reviewed when the proportion of people with the virus in England drops below 1%.

Around 4% of people are currently infected with coronavirus, according to the Office for National Statistics.

Under the new guidance, anyone in England who receives a positive lateral flow device (LFD) test result should report their result on gov.uk and must self-isolate immediately, but will not need to take a follow-up PCR test.

After reporting a positive LFD test result, they will be contacted by NHS Test and Trace so that their contacts can be traced.

Anyone who tests positive will be able to leave self-isolation seven days after the date of their initial positive test if they receive two negative lateral flow test results, 24 hours apart, on days six and seven.

At present anyone with a positive lateral flow test who has no symptoms needs a PCR test - carried out in a lab - to confirm their result. This can take days to arrive and health officials are worried people may not be isolating during this time.

Dr Jenny Harries, chief executive of UKHSA, said: "While cases of Covid continue to rise, this tried-and-tested approach means that LFDs can be used confidently to indicate Covid-19 infection without the need for PCR confirmation.

She added: "I'm really grateful to the public and all of our critical workers who continue to test regularly and self-isolate when necessary, along with other practical and important public health behaviours, as this is the most effective way of stopping the spread of the virus and keeping our friends, families and communities safe."

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Lateral flow tests are very good at detecting people who are infectious at present because the prevalence of the virus is high and there are lots of cases to be spotted.

Analysis shows that if you tested 1,000 people right now, you'd get 41 testing positive and almost all of them would be correct - but last summer, when there were fewer cases around - you'd get three positives but only two would be true. That's when a PCR would be important to confirm the result.

The latest Covid figures showed 218,724 new cases were recorded in the UK on Tuesday. That number included previously unreported cases from Wales and Northern Ireland from over the new year period.

A number of hospitals have declared critical incidents amid staff shortages due to Covid.

Separately, pre-departure tests for those entering the UK could also be scrapped.

The travel industry has called for all remaining Covid restrictions on travellers to be removed because the virus is circulating so widely.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said he aims to "ride out" the Omicron wave. When he meets his cabinet on Wednesday, he is due to urge them to back his decision not to impose any new restrictions for England.

At a Downing Street news briefing on Tuesday, he acknowledged some parts of the NHS would feel "temporarily overwhelmed", with the high case rate increasing not only the numbers in hospital but also the proportion of staff having to isolate.

But the prime minister recommended England sticks with the Plan B restrictions, which include working from home if possible, mask wearing in most public settings and the use of Covid passports in some venues. Those measures are currently due to end on 28 January.

Mr Johnson is also due to address MPs at Prime Minister's Questions on Wednesday afternoon.

Read more at the link.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59880007

Covid: Scottish self-isolation period cut to seven days

People who test positive for Covid in Scotland will be allowed to exit self-isolation after seven days if they have no fever and record two negative lateral flow tests.

The move brings Scotland into line with England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Household contacts of people with the virus will be allowed to take tests rather than going into quarantine, so long as they have had a booster shot.

The first minister also said no new restrictions will be put in place.

This breaking news story is being updated and more details will be published shortly. Please see the link for the fullest version.
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So 'theoretically'.....You could now claim to have a positive LFT result at home and take a week off.

No other tests to back up your claim.

Or am I missing something here?

Apart from blatant dishonesty, obviously......

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jimmy76 wrote:
06 Jan 2022, 07:13
So 'theoretically'.....You could now claim to have a positive LFT result at home and take a week off.

No other tests to back up your claim.

Or am I missing something here?

Apart from blatant dishonesty, obviously......

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Updated today for England. Updated 1st post
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-54239922

Check the link for up to date info : Updated 13 Jan
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I had a positive PCR and three days later my partner did. She got symptoms a couple of days after me.

Day 10 I'm symptom free and go back to work, she still has symptoms.

Day 12 she gets a call asking her for details of people shes been in contact with. Me obviously.

If I get a message telling me I have to isolate, do I?
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NewPostieUK wrote:
17 Jan 2022, 20:20
I had a positive PCR and three days later my partner did. She got symptoms a couple of days after me.

Day 10 I'm symptom free and go back to work, she still has symptoms.

Day 12 she gets a call asking her for details of people shes been in contact with. Me obviously.

If I get a message telling me I have to isolate, do I?
If you are double/treble vaxed and a Lateral flow/PCR test is negative then you can go in.

What are the self-isolation rules for contacts of people with Covid?
If you are fully vaccinated (two doses - three in Scotland), you do not have to self-isolate, but should take daily LFTs for seven days (or until 10 days since your last contact, if this is earlier).

Close contacts of positive cases who are not fully vaccinated still have to self-isolate for the full 10 days.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-60461378

"Free testing will end from 1 April for the general public, including those with symptoms, and self-isolation payments will end"


I've heard there might be a massive run on ordering LFT kits now, so we might be delivering as many of them as letters up to 31.03. :crazy:
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1560loopsayear wrote:
21 Feb 2022, 17:39
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-60461378

"Free testing will end from 1 April for the general public, including those with symptoms, and self-isolation payments will end"


I've heard there might be a massive run on ordering LFT kits now, so we might be delivering as many of them as letters up to 31.03. :crazy:
Lateral flow tests already being rationed ahead of Boris Johnson’s ‘living with Covid’ announcement.

Public could previously order one pack of seven tests every 24 hours through the gov.uk website, but this is now being limited.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/0 ... ns-living/
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As expected, Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced to the House of Commons that people in England who test positive for coronavirus will no longer legally have to isolate.

Here are more of the details of the rule changes announced today, which all apply to England:

The legal requirement to stay at home if you have Covid ends on Thursday
People will be advised to stay at home for at least five days - but from 1 April it is down to "personal responsibility"
Routine contact tracing will end on Thursday too
Self-isolation payments of £500 for those on low incomes are also going to end this week
Changes to statutory sick pay and employment support allowance will end on 24 March
Employees will no longer have to tell their bosses about their requirement to isolate
Free testing for all is coming to an end in April - but people will be able to buy tests instead
Th free rapid tests will be targeted to certain sections of the population, including the most vulnerable
Some asymptomatic testing will continue in the most risky settings like social care
The Department of Health and Social Care will receive no extra money to deliver testing
The regular ONS coronavirus surveillance reports will continue
Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer described the PM's plan as a "half-baked announcement from a government paralysed by chaos and incompetence"

The plans are all subject to parliamentary approval.

We'll hear more from the prime minister this evening at a press conference at 19:00 GMT. He'll be joined by England's Chief Medical Officer Sir Chris Whitty and chief scientific officer Sir Patrick Vallance.
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The big question is will self-isolating from Thursday count as normal sick (count towards any stages)? My gut feeling is that it will do
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Yes. I am positive covid now 5th day and feel rubbish. Just had a call to say if i’m still Positive on Thursday and don’t come in it will be counted as a different sick period 🙄 So covid does not exist after Thursday?? first time with covid and feel obliged to go in even if i’m Still coughing and sneezing with a positive test... thanks boris ..just taken another test positive got a day to get rid or have 2 separate sicknesses
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Covid absences “may” now count towards your sick record in line with royal mails attendance procedure.

You should continue to use isolate for 5 days though and provide a sick note if your absence exceeds 7 days.

“In line with government guidelines”
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snowball100 wrote:
22 Feb 2022, 16:25
Yes. I am positive covid now 5th day and feel rubbish. Just had a call to say if i’m still Positive on Thursday and don’t come in it will be counted as a different sick period 🙄 So covid does not exist after Thursday?? first time with covid and feel obliged to go in even if i’m Still coughing and sneezing with a positive test... thanks boris ..just taken another test positive got a day to get rid or have 2 separate sicknesses
It cannot be two separate absences. You have a start date and an end date , and the total number of days counts as one absence period.
As your absence started prior to the new guide lines , I'd have thought the existing agreement would apply.