Royal Mail CEO Simon Thompson Video : "I spend 45 minutes every week talking to Terry Pullinger"

[Spinks182]

It's really quite easy to understand why a lot of posties choose to come in early unpaid. The extra free time they get in the afternoon from finishing early so they can spend it with family or doing whatever they want to do during the day is much more valuable to them than time spent in early at work when they would otherwise be asleep. It makes perfect sense so stop bashing people for managing their time the way they want to. This will continue to happen until Royal Mail puts a stop to it and not before.

The union rep in our office has been having a go at these people for years and years completely pointlessly. Rather than constantly bullying the staff into doing what he wants them to do his time would be much better spent forcing royal mail management to at least record these free worked hours so that when the impending revisions happen and its all put to a stop they can be included in these revisions. Otherwise these revisions will be broken before they even get off the ground.

Nobody wants to be at work. The reason we have these early starters is because management have allowed the practise to happen as its always been in their best interest to have people working for free. Unfortunately for everybody refusing to record these hours is going to backfire badly and make any office revision not including them simply not work.

[postslippete]

A lot people come in early so their not as stressed specially when double prepping etc,your health is more important than money or time not everyone is arsed micro managing,if your up early might as well get on top of your frame or you could twiddle your thumbs at home.

Stay in bed more like!

[Woody Guthrie]

I know guys who constantly did this back in the day and all they seemed to do after they had started early, skipped their breaks, ran round, doorstepped and finished early was wait for it.. go for a kip.

[postslippete]

It's really quite easy to understand why a lot of posties choose to come in early unpaid. The extra free time they get in the afternoon from finishing early so they can spend it with family or doing whatever they want to do during the day is much more valuable to them than time spent in early at work when they would otherwise be asleep. It makes perfect sense so stop bashing people for managing their time the way they want to. This will continue to happen until Royal Mail puts a stop to it and not before.

I understand why posties come in early, they can skip the traffic at rush hour and spend most of the afternoon at home rather than at work. I believe the public expect a morning delivery to an evening one. However, the business doesn't care if you came in early unpaid BUT if you finish early and the manager wants to send you back out again, would you be prepared to do the extra work so that you work to your finish time??

If you don't, it could be classed as Insubordination. And if you do, then you might think twice about coming in early, unless of course you come in early so that you can finish on time to please your boss which is a different thing entirely.

PDAs, clocking machines, improving efficiency. It will only be a matter of a time buddy.

[Cucumber]

It's really quite easy to understand why a lot of posties choose to come in early unpaid. The extra free time they get in the afternoon from finishing early so they can spend it with family or doing whatever they want to do during the day is much more valuable to them than time spent in early at work when they would otherwise be asleep. It makes perfect sense so stop bashing people for managing their time the way they want to. This will continue to happen until Royal Mail puts a stop to it and not before.

The union rep in our office has been having a go at these people for years and years completely pointlessly. Rather than constantly bullying the staff into doing what he wants them to do his time would be much better spent forcing royal mail management to at least record these free worked hours so that when the impending revisions happen and its all put to a stop they can be included in these revisions. Otherwise these revisions will be broken before they even get off the ground.

Nobody wants to be at work. The reason we have these early starters is because management have allowed the practise to happen as its always been in their best interest to have people working for free. Unfortunately for everybody refusing to record these hours is going to backfire badly and make any office revision not including them simply not work.

There's a really, REALLY easy way to avoid this. Can you guess?

[Spinks182]

I'm not saying i agree with coming in early quite the opposite in fact! I start on time and try to finish on time. All i'm saying is that these people will keep starting early regardless of what anybody thinks. This is the reality of the situation. So in order to capture the correct data for the creation of revisions that will actually work the only option is to record those hours.

We can all see that these early starters are causing a false economy of hours at work. No-one has ever been able to stop them before but with the data capture thats going on now i completely agree that their days are numbered. So we should be capturing the amount of hours of free work that is being done so it can be calculated in. My fear is that we will get to revision time and once again it will be a big mess when something could have easily been done about it.

[Spinks182]

Its all well and good repeating the mantra 'start on time finish on time' but if half the office is going to ignore it then it's pointless. People will do what ever they want to do until forced to do otherwise. The oncoming months are going to be a big big shock for some people!

[Woody Guthrie]

As I've said before early starts don't affect the revision.
Indoor workload is built using the IWT.
Outdoor workload by Georoute.

PDA data will only be used where there is disagreement over duty length and that will consider first to last letter duration not finish times.

Not following the planned route and not using the correct methods is more of an issue than early starts.

Where we will run into problems is in offices where early starts have been propping up poor performance and inflating productivity because if you suddenly remove that artificial boost with something like AHDC the office is likely to fall on its arse.

[twoloops]

Where Terry?

[Stella102]

not seen terry in ages where is he?

[PostmanBitesDog]

not seen terry in ages where is he?

Probably went to meet Jimmy Hoffa.

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[Mickeybrowneyes]

Woody

It is not stupid to come in early. It is done for a variety of reasons. It allows some to complete OT and still finish early enough to meet other commitments. They are maximising their income. It allows others to finish early and meet other commitments. For some it means they can take a relaxed approach to the day knowing they can still finish on time. For some they feel obliged to be part of the team and if others are working early they don't like be seen as not doing their share. For some they fear not being able to finish in time but do not want the stress of constant arguments and pressure. It may be ill advised but not stupid.

What is stupid is the constant BS from both RM and CWU on this and job and finish.

Working as a team? By cutting hours and ultimately jobs.. Royal Mail want to bleed every working minute out of us. Why make it easy for them to save hours that aren't there to be saved. This is the number one problem in delivery offices. My office would have ten more duties if people did their job properly. Union useless, keep agreeing to longer delivery spans. The few that are doing the job properly and preserving jobs are being let down by Royal Mail and the union. I see multiple rows coming in my office when the walks are ripped to shreds because people been rushing round.

[k979aaa]

45 minutes just talking to Terry Pullinger wow why not try listening it would help rather than lecturing us all or indoctrination by apps or WTL, It is good we have someone who will communicate but it is not a one way street!