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Structural vs table top revisions

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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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aiden01 wrote:
19 Sep 2021, 21:31

Good to see you back martin but ffs just admit that rm is a shambles. and the cwu are lost in how to fix it. Our realignment was meant to do away with casuals/ agency now we have more than ever.
I've not noticed any sign of a re-alignment locally but we have more casuals than before, it's not unusual for us to be outnumbered by the casuals/agency by at least 2:1

The Network/RDC re-alignment has resulted in us getting our work later, meaning a struggle to get Tracked done. I can see our final dispatch times and shift attendance times being put back later by between 30-60 mins
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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Jobs bein left all over the place bcause of revisions badly done , staff in early doing ot (why) , does this not defeat the purpose of seeing how the duties are etc?
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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Martin Walsh wrote:
19 Sep 2021, 19:42


All of these revisions are subject to a joint PIR which should identify and resolve where the problems are.
The problems:
The planners and the tools the planners are using.
The managers. (and the managers are tools)
The union reps who signed it off without a vote.
The union H&S reps who signed it off (They should all be made to push trollies uphill for the rest of their life - a bit like Sisyphus)
The useless piss taking bastards who use any excuse to avoid doing any work but the union and the managers have their back.

The problem with the PIR is the same halfwits who f****d it all up in the first place sit down and discuss what a fantastic job they have done.
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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The problem with the PIR is the same halfwits who f****d it all up in the first place sit down and discuss what a fantastic job they have done.
Like having an enquiry into the sinking of the Titanic by the guys who designed and built it.

It was of course the iceberg's fault.

Who in the PIR meeting is going to stand up and say I f****d up?
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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Ah a PIR, we have been promised one of those down the line at some point whilst voicing our concerns about what could/should have been done differently. The only way out of this cock up is going to be another revision.
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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What happens after the PIR is there a PIR of how the PIR went?
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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Wouldn't a pre-implementation review be a far more productive meeting?
I know it's a crazy idea but sometimes you have to think outside the box.

What can a PIR actually achieve when presumably everyone in the room has already stood up and said the revision will work?

The only people copping any blame at a PIR meeting are the guys on the front line because obviously it's us sabotaging their beautiful dream. :roll:
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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Our PIR must have gone well.
We got three extra managers out of it.
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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So like most offices revision is a disaster for some. Mail being left on a lot of dutys that are way too big , Dom says hel sort them but this has went on far too long . Reverting back to original duty plan is the obvious way to fix it , but dom said they cant do that , erm why not? Wary of reporting to his big cheese that it hasnt worked? Was off today dreading going in tomoz.
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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Rumour has it that our revision will assign the regular "summer lasped duties" sections (that we are still being asked to take out) will become permanent additions to each duty all year round, instead of tweaking all the duties so the additional delivery points are logical extensions of the existing duty.

No news of whether duties that struggle to do that lapsing section inside contract hours being taken into consideration. No news of consideration for those duties getting everything done at the mo by coming in early for free and/or not taking their paid meal relief. Van share duties have their approx 40-80 extra delivery points up to ~1.5 miles away from the main duty start, HCT duties having to walk up to ~0.75 miles away from the depot to deliver to approx 20-40 addresses in the opposite direction of their frame's delivery area. Probably more additional travelling time than delivering mail time.

But it ticks the box of shoe-horning extra delivery points to duties in time for the grand announcement at the Stock Exchange... Just don't think about the consequences around busy periods when OPGs inform linos they haven't got time to deliver everywhere inside contract hours and don't want the overtime, less than a month later! :nervous
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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Martin Walsh wrote:
19 Sep 2021, 19:42
It is always important to understand the scale of change which has been introduced during a pandemic, most without issues.

37 Mail Centre realignments
Network Revision
PAD revisions
Revenue protection revisions
RDC realignments
PAD revisions
Most collections revisions.

All received the shorter working week.

Now on Delivery out of the 886 delivery offices who were tasked with performing a table top revisions 850 have either introduced them or or scheduled before the end of September. A lot of these have seen lots of part timers having an increase in contract. Approximately 42% of these are hitting their WIPWH targets.

On Structural revisions out of the 400 who were scheduled to undertake a structural revision as of last week Only 69 had deployed.

Some are scheduled to be deployed this week.

The scheduled revisions have been challenging as for most offices it is the first time they had a structural revision since BT2010.

The mix of mail has changed in that time and the introduction of the economy mail product and dedicated parcels does impact on call rates.

Some structural revisions have come in ok. Some have not and this has been influenced by the recruitment issues , sickness levels and issues with sequencing.

In addition it is fair to say that the scale of change from the structural revisions has been massive. In some cases changing all the sorting and all the walks when increasing or decreasing walks by 3 or 4.

All of these revisions are subject to a joint PIR which should identify and resolve where the problems are.
How many offices down for a structural revision. That looked a problem, has been swapped for an office down for an office expecting a table top revision
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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The good news is we are getting a new indoor workplan next week.
This time they are going to move the deckchairs over to the right .......
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:
23 Sep 2021, 16:55
Rumour has it that our revision will assign the regular "summer lasped duties" sections (that we are still being asked to take out) will become permanent additions to each duty all year round, instead of tweaking all the duties so the additional delivery points are logical extensions of the existing duty.
That's exactly what happened in my DO. TBH a lot of the Duties had been taking the Lapsing all year ... AND still carved up the duty and finished an hour early .... so they didn't really have a very good argument against it. :Boo hoo!

Several of the Monster Duties didn't pick up any of that additional Absorption .... mainly because they'd NOT been taking the Lapsing, or had claimed Pressure OT for it. :thumbup

Ironically many of the "Runners" realised their mistake too late and once they'd been given that Lapsing/Absorption they suddenly found themselves unable to do it in the time available. :shock: Then the grizzling started again! :cuppa
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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Who does the Dom report to regarding revisions ? Is it easy enough to actually get in touch with him/her and give them another viewpoint of revisions?
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Re: Structural vs table top revisions

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Chelseablue wrote:
24 Sep 2021, 18:59
Who does the Dom report to regarding revisions ? Is it easy enough to actually get in touch with him/her and give them another viewpoint of revisions?
They should be liaising with the office/area rep. I know in our office it was easy enough. Our rep said more than once if anyone had any other ideas they were welcome to put them forward.