RMC:IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:2008.

[POSTMAN]

This will be the last time i make a post like this so i urge everyone to read and take note of what is written in this thread.
The rules will be strenuously enforced for the sake of the site,me and you the users.
Below are a few posts that have been made up over time that have been slightly edited.

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POSTMAN

Due to some events happening on the site not just in the past few weeks but for a while now i have decided to make this post.
There has been complaints to me,the mods and on the board about certain stuff going on,and people are pissed off with it all.
So i'm going to ask you to read the RULES which will now be enforced as we have given some of you an inch and you have taken a mile.
This site is for All Royal Mail workers and customers and not for just 'the majority' of us who hold the same view.

There have been occasions when we get users on that have different views than the majority and they are immediately accused of being a 'scab' or a 'screw'.
This is not on and neither is the abuse they get.

Most users do not want to see a personal battle going on in a thread it spoils the thread and the nature of the board.
At the moment at the time of writing i know of a few users who 'just can't be bothered' to post up their views of the current deal as they feel they will be shot down like above.
These are senior members as well and it is a sad day on this site if our users 'can't be bothered' to try and have a discussion on here for fear of insults and abuse being thrown at them.

Yes we have had wind up merchants and users just coming on for a row but the fact is some of you feed them and then all hell breaks loose.
This has to stop and it WILL stop for the sake of the board,if you can't handle this post then i'm afraid it's time to move on.
If you can't handle reading or responding to different views regardless if they are managers or whoever then the same applies.

We've got something good going on here we are being linked eveywhere and we're getting some press attention,but this will stop if all they see is some of the abuse and crap posted at times.
You have always had free speech on here which will not stop but some of you are taking it too far.


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lovejoy

This site has been a tremendous success since it was started and i'm sure many would agree it gives better information than most union and RM areas!

It also enables us to share our problems, agreements and greviences. The trouble with a public forum though is exactly that .... it is very public.

Royal Mail management sit and scan through here constantly everyday. We have seen sackings, suspensions and threats issued to users of this site and now the creator of this great forum is being hunted.

I have and never will take a backstep from management but i have always been able to do this without resorting to swearing, insulting and naming names. This type of approach means that even if RM do find out who we are they cannot do anything about it.

Sadly when we lower ourselves to their level and start throwing the Fs and Cs around they just sit back analyse what we are posting and slower narrow their search down. We may all think thats fine but 1. none of us can afford to be out of a job and 2. The pressure grows on POSTMAN with every idiotic post.

I am well aware i could get a few replied to this post that will not be so complimentary but to these posters why can't you make your point without the expletives.

In short we are in very real danger of either 1 the lawyers attempting to close this site or 2 POSTMAN realising he is a plonker for putting his own neck on the line and closing it himself.

POSTMAN and the mod team make massive efforts to clean up any dodgy stuff but they can't be on here 24/7. I don't want this forum to close. I love sharing information and views but make no mistake thats the way we're going if things continue.

If someone posts something you don't like then make a reasoned response or even PM the individual.

I think we sometimes lose sight of who the real enemy is. Sadly if some people do not wake up then they'll be getting interviewed, conducted and even sacked by the sly eyes that lurk!!

COME ON GUYS LETS NOT THROW AWAY WHAT WE HAVE BUILT UP HERE!!!


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POSTMAN

I welcome Managers on here and i have always said that,as i feel that it is important to hear their side.
But apart from the odd one or two they haven't been posting and just seem to lurk the site.That's not a major problem as Posties do the same,but it seems some are coming on here to catch some of you guys out.

So to start off with,if anyone wants to change their username then pm me.Do not pm the mods,pm me.
Also some of you it would be wise to perhaps change your location in your profile/sigs if you have your office in there.

I have been looking into the legalities of what we do on here but it's hard to find any substantial advice.
One bit of advice i got is below.

[1] The posts made are the ownership and views of the poster - not the hoster/owner of the forum.
BUT do make sure you have a rules topic that spells that out to make sure its understood.

[2] In spite of [1] if any post is deemed to be offensive etc - you should pull it. So no personal abuse of a manager etc should be acceptable, or of the company as a whole.Try to keep discussions about issues - not personalities.

[3] Libel and slander are still illegal even if they can say whatever they want. They need to be careful that what they are is not libel or slander otherwise they open themselves up to disciplinary measures much worse than being told off by their boss. Those measures have the potential for you (RMC)to end up being subpeoned.

So on the basis of this and feedback from some members we have to change the way we use the site slightly.
We are NOT going to turn into a Namby Pamby site but we do have to change the way we use it for all our sakes.


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rhino49

"We should continue in the vein we have started but always be aware that those who are cornered will use desperate means to escape and if the truth and the facts hurt them (RM) then they may try to retaliate or at least discourage us from contributing."