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fly-catchers
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Re: Brexit
Hope that RM has ordered loads of Custom Charge cards!
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Re: Brexit
Brexit's going well so far. 
Observer | The Guardian (January 23, 2021) ~ Move to EU to Avoid Brexit Costs, Firms Told
Exporters advised by Department for International Trade officials to form EU-based companies to circumvent border issues
British businesses that export to the continent are being encouraged by government trade advisers to set up separate companies inside the EU in order to get around extra charges, paperwork and taxes resulting from Brexit, the Observer can reveal.
In an extraordinary twist to the Brexit saga, UK small businesses are being told by advisers working for the Department for International Trade (DIT) that the best way to circumvent border issues and VAT problems that have been piling up since 1 January is to register new firms within the EU single market, from where they can distribute their goods far more freely.
The heads of two UK businesses that have been beset by Brexit-related problems have told the Observer that, following advice from experts at the Department for International Trade, they have already decided to register new companies in the EU in the next few weeks, and they knew of many others in similar positions. Other companies have also said they too were advised by government officials to register operations in the EU but had not yet made decisions.
Andrew Moss, who runs Horizon Retail Marketing Solutions, based in Ely, Cambridgeshire, and selling packaging and point-of-sale marketing displays in the UK and to EU customers, is registering a European company Horizon Europe in the Netherlands in the next few weeks, on the advice of a senior government adviser.
This will mean laying off a small number of staff here and taking on people in the Netherlands.
Referring to discussions with a senior DIT adviser on trade, Moss said: “This guy talked complete sense. What I said to him was, have I got another choice [other than to set up a company abroad]? He confirmed that he couldn’t see another way. He told me that what I was thinking of doing was the right thing, that he could see no other option. He did not see this as a teething problem. He said he had to be careful what he said, but he was very clear.”
Moss said it was now clear that Brexit was not about winning back control from the EU but investing in it to survive.
Geoffrey Betts, managing director of Stewart Superior Ltd, a company in Marlow, Bucks, which sells office supplies to UK and continental customers, said he had also decided to set up a company in the Netherlands for the same reasons.
He had also spoken to an official at the Department for International Trade before making his decision and received the same advice. “When the government said it had secured free trade, it was obvious it was nothing of the sort,” said Betts. VAT issues, new charges on moving goods and more bureaucracy all added up to an “administrative nightmare”, he said.
By moving operations into the EU and shipping out large consignments from the UK to their new European operations, the businesses can not only avoid cross-border delays and costs on every single small consignment they send, but can also defuse VAT problems that are currently hitting them and their European customers hard.
The Department for International Trade was approached for comment but did not respond.
Yesterday, as the impact of leaving the single market and customs union on 1 January became ever more clear, the Financial Times reported that the cost of a £12 bottle of wine in UK shops could rise by up to £1.50 a bottle because of the extra bureaucracy and charges affecting imports.
In a further blow to the government’s idea of “global Britain” after Brexit, the chances of signing a swift UK/US trade deal also appeared to be ebbing away after President Joe Biden’s nominee for Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen, made clear the president had other more pressing domestic economic priorities than international trade deals.
Rachel Reeves, shadow chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and shadow minister for the Cabinet Office, said: “Once again we see this government’s sheer incompetence and lack of planning holding British businesses back and slowing our economic recovery.
“They’ve got to get a grip on this now and stop leaving our businesses out in the cold.”
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Take back control. LOL!
From the Daily Express in August 2018: Britain Will be BETTER OFF After Brexit: Poll Shows Businesses BRIMMING With Confidence
Fools.
Observer | The Guardian (January 23, 2021) ~ Move to EU to Avoid Brexit Costs, Firms Told
Exporters advised by Department for International Trade officials to form EU-based companies to circumvent border issues
British businesses that export to the continent are being encouraged by government trade advisers to set up separate companies inside the EU in order to get around extra charges, paperwork and taxes resulting from Brexit, the Observer can reveal.
In an extraordinary twist to the Brexit saga, UK small businesses are being told by advisers working for the Department for International Trade (DIT) that the best way to circumvent border issues and VAT problems that have been piling up since 1 January is to register new firms within the EU single market, from where they can distribute their goods far more freely.
The heads of two UK businesses that have been beset by Brexit-related problems have told the Observer that, following advice from experts at the Department for International Trade, they have already decided to register new companies in the EU in the next few weeks, and they knew of many others in similar positions. Other companies have also said they too were advised by government officials to register operations in the EU but had not yet made decisions.
Andrew Moss, who runs Horizon Retail Marketing Solutions, based in Ely, Cambridgeshire, and selling packaging and point-of-sale marketing displays in the UK and to EU customers, is registering a European company Horizon Europe in the Netherlands in the next few weeks, on the advice of a senior government adviser.
This will mean laying off a small number of staff here and taking on people in the Netherlands.
Referring to discussions with a senior DIT adviser on trade, Moss said: “This guy talked complete sense. What I said to him was, have I got another choice [other than to set up a company abroad]? He confirmed that he couldn’t see another way. He told me that what I was thinking of doing was the right thing, that he could see no other option. He did not see this as a teething problem. He said he had to be careful what he said, but he was very clear.”
Moss said it was now clear that Brexit was not about winning back control from the EU but investing in it to survive.
Geoffrey Betts, managing director of Stewart Superior Ltd, a company in Marlow, Bucks, which sells office supplies to UK and continental customers, said he had also decided to set up a company in the Netherlands for the same reasons.
He had also spoken to an official at the Department for International Trade before making his decision and received the same advice. “When the government said it had secured free trade, it was obvious it was nothing of the sort,” said Betts. VAT issues, new charges on moving goods and more bureaucracy all added up to an “administrative nightmare”, he said.
By moving operations into the EU and shipping out large consignments from the UK to their new European operations, the businesses can not only avoid cross-border delays and costs on every single small consignment they send, but can also defuse VAT problems that are currently hitting them and their European customers hard.
The Department for International Trade was approached for comment but did not respond.
Yesterday, as the impact of leaving the single market and customs union on 1 January became ever more clear, the Financial Times reported that the cost of a £12 bottle of wine in UK shops could rise by up to £1.50 a bottle because of the extra bureaucracy and charges affecting imports.
In a further blow to the government’s idea of “global Britain” after Brexit, the chances of signing a swift UK/US trade deal also appeared to be ebbing away after President Joe Biden’s nominee for Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen, made clear the president had other more pressing domestic economic priorities than international trade deals.
Rachel Reeves, shadow chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster and shadow minister for the Cabinet Office, said: “Once again we see this government’s sheer incompetence and lack of planning holding British businesses back and slowing our economic recovery.
“They’ve got to get a grip on this now and stop leaving our businesses out in the cold.”
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Take back control. LOL!
From the Daily Express in August 2018: Britain Will be BETTER OFF After Brexit: Poll Shows Businesses BRIMMING With Confidence
Fools.
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PostmanBitesDog
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NWpostie
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Re: Brexit
PostmanBitesDog wrote: ↑30 Aug 2021, 18:29Fixed it for you.
You're welcome.
Have we ? The sky hadn't fallen, if anything. It's Europe that's in a quagmire, their solution to any crisis is more Europe, they can't get their vaccination program right.
If you like Europe so much, you can always leave.
Six of Nine loves Seven of Nine, together in Electric Dreams.
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PostmanBitesDog
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I'm already in Europe. Britain is geographically part of Europe. You're as bad with facts as you're with grammar.
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PostmanBitesDog
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I'm sick of seeing empty shelves in the supermarket. Yes, the pandemic has impacted deliveries, but Brexit has exacerbated the problem. And it was expected to happen without a pandemic.
Stupid racist Brexit.
City A.M. (August 27, 2021) ~ Brexit Disruption: Tesco Chairman Warns Supermarket Shelves Could be Empty at Christmas
Stupid racist Brexit.
City A.M. (August 27, 2021) ~ Brexit Disruption: Tesco Chairman Warns Supermarket Shelves Could be Empty at Christmas
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Away and take a Chill Pill Postie if you can find any...PostmanBitesDog wrote: ↑30 Aug 2021, 20:40I'm sick of seeing empty shelves in the supermarket. Yes, the pandemic has impacted deliveries, but Brexit has exacerbated the problem. And it was expected to happen without a pandemic.
Stupid racist Brexit.
Empty Shelves.jpg
City A.M. (August 27, 2021) ~ Brexit Disruption: Tesco Chairman Warns Supermarket Shelves Could be Empty at Christmas
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NWpostie
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And with that remark, you have exposed yourself as someone not worth listening to.
Six of Nine loves Seven of Nine, together in Electric Dreams.
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PostmanBitesDog
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Re: Brexit
And yet you're still here.
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PostmanBitesDog
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What's a "Chill Pill Postie"?blue1873 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 02:33Away and take a Chill Pill Postie if you can find any...PostmanBitesDog wrote: ↑30 Aug 2021, 20:40I'm sick of seeing empty shelves in the supermarket. Yes, the pandemic has impacted deliveries, but Brexit has exacerbated the problem. And it was expected to happen without a pandemic.
Stupid racist Brexit.
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PostmanBitesDog
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BBC (June 20, 2019) ~ Brexit 'Major Influence' in Racism and Hate Crime Rise
The Washington Post (June 25, 2016) ~ The Uncomfortable Question: Was the Brexit Vote Based on Racism?
The Guardian (May 20, 2019) ~ Racism Rising Since Brexit Vote, Nationwide Study Reveals
OpenDemocracy (October 26, 2020) ~ Political Racism and the Making of ‘Brexitland’
The Washington Post (June 25, 2016) ~ The Uncomfortable Question: Was the Brexit Vote Based on Racism?
The Guardian (May 20, 2019) ~ Racism Rising Since Brexit Vote, Nationwide Study Reveals
OpenDemocracy (October 26, 2020) ~ Political Racism and the Making of ‘Brexitland’
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blue1873
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Okay I'll bite .........put yourself on the back burner and simmerPostmanBitesDog wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 20:43What's a "Chill Pill Postie"?blue1873 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 02:33Away and take a Chill Pill Postie if you can find any...PostmanBitesDog wrote: ↑30 Aug 2021, 20:40I'm sick of seeing empty shelves in the supermarket. Yes, the pandemic has impacted deliveries, but Brexit has exacerbated the problem. And it was expected to happen without a pandemic.
Stupid racist Brexit.
lifes too short to get your nuts in a knot 
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ssdd
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Is that the Postman, the dog, or both?blue1873 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2021, 01:34Okay I'll bite .........PostmanBitesDog wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 20:43What's a "Chill Pill Postie"?blue1873 wrote: ↑03 Sep 2021, 02:33Away and take a Chill Pill Postie if you can find any...PostmanBitesDog wrote: ↑30 Aug 2021, 20:40I'm sick of seeing empty shelves in the supermarket. Yes, the pandemic has impacted deliveries, but Brexit has exacerbated the problem. And it was expected to happen without a pandemic.
Stupid racist Brexit.