The Revision process in Delivery?

[DICKIEG]

Part timers only get overtime rate when they reach full time hours. So when the hours go to 37 hours, someone on 30 hours will have to do 7 hours extra before going onto o/t rate. So in which case the pay should be the same. Any hours more will attract the o/t rate, as its over 37 hours exactly the same as a full timer. Although I stand to be corrected if wrong

[Woody Guthrie]

:A f/t will drop an hour & still get paid the same amount per week. In my book this is a payrise

Unfortunately in my bank account it is not.

[clashcityrocker]

The union has got 3 options faced with the decrease in indoor work.
1. Reduce the working week.
2. Accept longer delivery spans.
3. Lose full time jobs.

I am no fan of Mr Pullinger but in this instance his strategy is correct.
Unfortunately for those areas that have been resistant to change they may well see options 1 and 2 implemented at the same time.
But on the bright side they are not seeing compulsory redundancies.

[estelle]

Rambo - I get what you are saying - but you've forgotten -

The basic FT wage every week is higher than that of a LTFT worker - on the basis of simple maths alone, whereby

FT = more hours
LTFT = fewer hours

Going only on the basis of basic pay - fundamentally, LTFT are paid less every single week - to be paid the same as a FT colleague, they have to do non compulsory and not guaranteed overtime (which can be indoor prep work, outdoor extended dekivery, collections, booking in etc).

Whilst FT won't see an increase to basic weekly wages but are purportedly reducing their basic working week by an hour, they will fundamentally also have the hourly rate payrise because they are still paid the same but work an hour less, LTFT do see an uplift in hourly some rate which equates to a small payrise, but again, they are paid less on LTFT basic wages every week to start with simply because their contractual basic hours are less than that of a full time colleague.

Not everyone is able to work more than their contractual hours - so your logic appear flawed.

[Bunjinan]

“ The part timers” don’t think you should be using that phrase - they are working the hours that were advertised and they applied for. They are not taking money out of your pocket!

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Part timers only get overtime rate when they reach full time hours. So when the hours go to 37 hours, someone on 30 hours will have to do 7 hours extra before going onto o/t rate. So in which case the pay should be the same. Any hours more will attract the o/t rate, as its over 37 hours exactly the same as a full timer. Although I stand to be corrected if wrong

Anyone working 37 hours in a week will be paid the same basic hourly rate whether they are contracted for 1 hour per week, 24 hours per week, or 37 Hours per week. To not do so would be illegal.

Royal Mail introduced over 10 years ago if I remember correctly a payment that includes the delivery supplement in to ensure this is the case. But instead of making it clear on the pay slip, the call it SSPR. So if you get SSPR on your pay slip in the vast majority of cases if you do the same hours as a full timer, you will have been paid the same.

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[rambo1]

Part timers only get overtime rate when they reach full time hours. So when the hours go to 37 hours, someone on 30 hours will have to do 7 hours extra before going onto o/t rate. So in which case the pay should be the same. Any hours more will attract the o/t rate, as its over 37 hours exactly the same as a full timer. Although I stand to be corrected if wrong

Anyone working 37 hours in a week will be paid the same basic hourly rate whether they are contracted for 1 hour per week, 24 hours per week, or 37 Hours per week. To not do so would be illegal.

Royal Mail introduced over 10 years ago if I remember correctly a payment that includes the delivery supplement in to ensure this is the case. But instead of making it clear on the pay slip, the call it SSPR. So if you get SSPR on your pay slip in the vast majority of cases if you do the same hours as a full timer, you will have been paid the same.

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No. If a part timer on 25 hrs contract works 37 hrs they will be paid more than a full timer on 37 hr contract.

[clashcityrocker]

No. If a part timer on 25 hrs contract works 37 hrs they will be paid more than a full timer on 37 hr contract.

If you think a p/t on a 25 hour contract who works 12 hours overtime will be paid more than a f/t on a 37 hour contract you are wrong. Your thinking is beyond muddled.

[Dexydog]

They will be paid exactly the same.
Someone has an enormous chip on his/her shoulder.

[rambo1]

Part timers only get overtime rate when they reach full time hours. So when the hours go to 37 hours, someone on 30 hours will have to do 7 hours extra before going onto o/t rate. So in which case the pay should be the same. Any hours more will attract the o/t rate, as its over 37 hours exactly the same as a full timer. Although I stand to be corrected if wrong

Anyone working 37 hours in a week will be paid the same basic hourly rate whether they are contracted for 1 hour per week, 24 hours per week, or 37 Hours per week. To not do so would be illegal.

Royal Mail introduced over 10 years ago if I remember correctly a payment that includes the delivery supplement in to ensure this is the case. But instead of making it clear on the pay slip, the call it SSPR. So if you get SSPR on your pay slip in the vast majority of cases if you do the same hours as a full timer, you will have been paid the same.

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No. If a part timer on 25 hrs contract works 37 hrs they will be paid more than a full timer on 37 hr contract.

I'll correct myself there having just read it of course thats wrong, only on an annual leave week do pt gain on ft.

[Dexydog]

How on God's earth would p/t gain on f/t on annual leave???!!

[toonshola]

Been part time on 26 hours for 11 years and I’ll be happy to swap contracts with any of these bitter full timers who think I am so much better off. Any takers?

[Dexydog]

Been part time on 26 hours for 11 years and I’ll be happy to swap contracts with any of these bitter full timers who think I am so much better off. Any takers?

Thought not.
I honestly don't know what peoples' problems are on here.
I don't get any kind of vindictiveness at work and sure as hell wouldn't want to work with a few full-time posters on here.
Part-time get shat on every day of week- I've learned now to fight the things I have a chance of winning, and letting go of the ones where I know it's pointless saying anything.
RM is a dinosaur of an employer, 8 weeks to go and I'm outta here, can't wait.

[TopperGas]

They will be paid exactly the same.
Someone has an enormous chip on his/her shoulder.

Until they reached their rest week then they'd be paid 12 hours/£132+ gross less? They'd also lose out on the 10% company pension contributions of £13+ on a weekly basis?

There's also no guarantee that they'd be paid overtime indefinitely all year.

I can't see many FT'ers wanting to swap with a PT'er, pay wise!

[Dexydog]

They will be paid exactly the same.
Someone has an enormous chip on his/her shoulder.

Until they reached their rest week then they'd be paid 12 hours/£132+ gross less? They'd also lose out on the 10% company pension contributions of £13+ on a weekly basis?

There's also no guarantee that they'd be paid overtime indefinitely all year.

I can't see many FT'ers wanting to swap with a PT'er, pay wise!

Exactly. (although your pension contributions are actually made up when doing full-time hours- I wonder what the new holiday pay agreement will say with regards this?- I bet your extra contributions are not made up when your 6 monthly payment comes in).
The new agreement, whilst welcome, just doesn't cut it and is still discriminatory.