Is Dave Ward the worst CWU leader ever?

[clashcityrocker]

..... because you talk absolute crap!
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Thank you for your insightful contribution.

[Phantom]

I feel for our part-time colleagues as I was part time for years. Turning down overtime is not the answer as you know the screws will just ask someone else. We have a lot of temps at our place and I'm convinced that they are on less money as they are often called upon to complete deliveries.

That's bad news for anyone who is part time and wants to make up their hours and other than dragging the job out and claiming a couple of extra hours a day I don't know how else a part timer can increase their hours.

Once again....i guess it depends on how good your rep is at getting extra hours for part timers. Our last rep told me he had to fight tooth and nail to get extra hours put in and they could only do it in a revision when some staff left and they unfortunately made a lot of the duties bigger. With restructuring increasing part timers hours should be on the agenda?

I'm not talking about an individual here, you have to have a few of you cutting off everyday, you say others will do it, maybe or maybe not, it is a gamble and i've seen it work in another office. Don't be short sighted, if a manager has to get part of your walk covered everyday then this will grind them down, doing overtime stops the increase in full time contracts. Like I said in a previous post, it's either do or die. Do nothing and you stay as you are, do something and it might work if there are enough of you doing it.

One or two on here can find every excuse in the book to NOT do anything but what excuse have you got to do SOMETHING???

[Phantom]

I told you to hold a meeting with part timers

So I somehow manage to get enough part timers together in a room on their own time.
I explain to some of the poorest paid people in the office who rely on overtime to pay their rent and feed their kids that a woman on the internet in New York says the only way to improve their lot is to give up all overtime for 2 weeks, (4weeks 6 months who knows?)
Apparently this worked somewhere else ....
I can see that working.

I don't wish to be rude but I am going to ignore everything you say.

You pick the status quo, no problem because you talk absolute crap!
End of.

Are you a rep??

No.

[postslippete]

I'm not talking about an individual here, you have to have a few of you cutting off everyday, you say others will do it, maybe or maybe not, it is a gamble and i've seen it work in another office. Don't be short sighted, if a manager has to get part of your walk covered everyday then this will grind them down, doing overtime stops the increase in full time contracts. Like I said in a previous post, it's either do or die. Do nothing and you stay as you are, do something and it might work if there are enough of you doing it.

One or two on here can find every excuse in the book to NOT do anything but what excuse have you got to do SOMETHING???

I don't have any excuses to do anything. We are not all going to stand at the gates and refuse to work so that our part time colleagues can get made up to full-time!!

However, I would often cut off and we got a regular part timer who would then take out the extra loops. He wants an increase in hours the same as you - but while you're doing and dying - he's grabbing his hours up to full-time every week. The managers have even put this guy on a fixed duty because he's helping them out much to the annoyance of the other part-timers who have been there far longer and get shifted from pillar to post.

If there are enough of you cutting off in your office they may consider making more part-timers full time but then they could also just put more duties in instead.

[Phantom]

I'm not talking about an individual here, you have to have a few of you cutting off everyday, you say others will do it, maybe or maybe not, it is a gamble and i've seen it work in another office. Don't be short sighted, if a manager has to get part of your walk covered everyday then this will grind them down, doing overtime stops the increase in full time contracts. Like I said in a previous post, it's either do or die. Do nothing and you stay as you are, do something and it might work if there are enough of you doing it.

One or two on here can find every excuse in the book to NOT do anything but what excuse have you got to do SOMETHING???

I don't have any excuses to do anything. We are not all going to stand at the gates and refuse to work so that our part time colleagues can get made up to full-time!!

However, I would often cut off and we got a regular part timer who would then take out the extra loops. He wants an increase in hours the same as you - but while you're doing and dying - he's grabbing his hours up to full-time every week. The managers have even put this guy on a fixed duty because he's helping them out much to the annoyance of the other part-timers who have been there far longer and get shifted from pillar to post.

If there are enough of you cutting off in your office they may consider making more part-timers full time but then they could also just put more duties in instead.

Didn't say anything about refusing to work or standing on the gate. He's only grabbing because there has not been any organisation to stop overtime, you all have to do it, as a union! The bigger picture is right in front of you, if you don't see it then no one can help and you stay as you are on part time wages. Don't forget when the scanning in and out technology comes in within delivery offices, along with outdoor pda oa then overtime will be severely reduced or even gone completely at some offices. All contractual hours will be used first before any overtime is permitted and failure to do so will reflect heavily on the Dom.

[postslippete]

Didn't say anything about refusing to work or standing on the gate. He's only grabbing because there has not been any organisation to stop overtime, you all have to do it, as a union! The bigger picture is right in front of you, if you don't see it then no one can help and you stay as you are on part time wages. Don't forget when the scanning in and out technology comes in within delivery offices, along with outdoor pda oa then overtime will be severely reduced or even gone completely at some offices. All contractual hours will be used first before any overtime is permitted and failure to do so will reflect heavily on the Dom.

The bigger picture is that the Royal Mail want a part-time workforce because every time a full-timer leaves, a part-time bag carrier dressed in kaki trousers, trainers and a orange hi-vi arrives in their place. Weirdly enough there are also many posties who actually prefer to work part-time. Not all of them want extra hours.

Theres no doubt that the scanning in and out technology are primarily designed to increase our efficiency. It may stop some posties "ghosting" but for those part-timers who are cutting off and if the duties not getting adequately covered all that means is that the business may have to employ extra staff or even put in some additional duties.

[employee1]

Dave Ward is a fantastic leader. He is standing up for every single CWU member. That's exactly what's needed right now.

[k979aaa]

When I started this job 30 plus years ago we got the time to be the caring face of the community at the start of the Interview it was not how fast I can walk/run but about resolving problems and helping others. Fast forward and we don't cannot do that because of the greed of others in this company I know we can never do everything we did do in the past.
But with the service of being in the community could we not provide other services at cost by the government so that we retain jobs and help our other services by using our network. This helps us retain jobs and also will give a better light on the company as a whole as a presence in society.
As to Dave Ward he has come a long way and is now at the fore front on leading us out of this dispute we need an agreement but one in which both sides can claim a victory. I believe if one obstacle was removed this agreement could be done as to the timeline who knows!