Breaks

[DaintyDiva]

Will the introduction of scanning in & out encourage people to take their breaks. Currently at our office everyone works through their break and claims it on the end, but surely this won't be able to happen.

[mags999]

hardly anybody takes there break in our office just sign out 40 mins earlier who wants to take there break in a van this is going to cause an issue with clocking out straight from the off

[Cucumber]

Only now that pay and conditions are being attacked (albeit in a long game kind of way) are people thinking about doing the job properly.

Not taking breaks.
Cars on delivery
Starting early unpaid


It's a bit late now.

[worktotime]

take my break everyday no problem , why would you work 5-6 hrs on delivery without anything to eat or a sit down ? , or do an extra loop instead ? , its beyond me , when your clocking off it wont say well he/she hasnt had a break they will just look at the time you clocked out and the cwu should be telling members to do the job right , and i also think its time people gave there head a bang and wake up to what is doing to happen and start doing the job right as you would anywhere else . DO THE JOB RIGHT .

[Marshamp11]

take my break everyday no problem , why would you work 5-6 hrs on delivery without anything to eat or a sit down ? , or do an extra loop instead ? , its beyond me , when your clocking off it wont say well he/she hasnt had a break they will just look at the time you clocked out and the cwu should be telling members to do the job right , and i also think its time people gave there head a bang and wake up to what is doing to happen and start doing the job right as you would anywhere else . DO THE JOB RIGHT .

Exactly this.

[CillitBang]

take my break everyday no problem , why would you work 5-6 hrs on delivery without anything to eat or a sit down ? , or do an extra loop instead ? , its beyond me , when your clocking off it wont say well he/she hasnt had a break they will just look at the time you clocked out and the cwu should be telling members to do the job right , and i also think its time people gave there head a bang and wake up to what is doing to happen and start doing the job right as you would anywhere else . DO THE JOB RIGHT .

What are you supposed to do on the street for 40 mins. Everywhere is closed and we are told off for idling the van, which is being tracked with trimble. So we should sit in the van, cold, wet, with the heating off? Or drive back to the office for the canteen? If the latter, your break starts when you get to the office driving isn't a break, that could be 1 hour of time. What about walkers who may be 30+ mins walk away?

[worktotime]

take my break everyday no problem , why would you work 5-6 hrs on delivery without anything to eat or a sit down ? , or do an extra loop instead ? , its beyond me , when your clocking off it wont say well he/she hasnt had a break they will just look at the time you clocked out and the cwu should be telling members to do the job right , and i also think its time people gave there head a bang and wake up to what is doing to happen and start doing the job right as you would anywhere else . DO THE JOB RIGHT .

What are you supposed to do on the street for 40 mins. Everywhere is closed and we are told off for idling the van, which is being tracked with trimble. So we should sit in the van, cold, wet, with the heating off? Or drive back to the office for the canteen? If the latter, your break starts when you get to the office driving isn't a break, that could be 1 hour of time. What about walkers who may be 30+ mins walk away?

like i said we have our break everyday regardless either we take half our break before we leave the office and take the other outside or the full break outside and yes we do sit in the van , we take pack up , or chippy and sandwich shop and not eveywhere is closed , and so be it if you have to go back to the office for your break or a toilet then you either finish on time and take stuff back or claim the o/t for going over to complete , and when p&l came in all dutys should have had toilet stops and meal stops built in to the deliverys . and if not then thats there problem and not yours .

[CillitBang]

Each to their own. Personally I'd rather work through, stay warm and leave early and just take snacks in my pocket! We had 20 mins indoor, 20 mins off the end until covid which was fine but obviously can't have 40 folk using the canteen every morning now!

[mags999]

different views so still no real solution to this issue

[SpacePhoenix]

Depending on how the SWW gets implemented this time around, breaks could actually get shorter, depending on the new attendance lengths for different days

[Yamr1]

Every ft staff should be taken there break , the UK law states you shouldn't work over 6 hours without a break .
H&s etc

[mags999]

for christs sake take it where after 3 hours your on your delivery this isn't your normal factory or office type job

[Sugar]

when your clocking off it wont say well he/she hasnt had a break they will just look at the time you clocked out and the cwu should be telling members to do the job right

Before I started at RM I worked at a company that you had to swipe your card when you started your break and again when you'd finished it and this was pre 2000 so the technology has been there for decades its just this company and union that don't want to do this properly because both stand to loose out massively.

[Dorset Plodder]

Depending on how the SWW gets implemented this time around, breaks could actually get shorter, depending on the new attendance lengths for different days

Explain how that would happen SP? There's obviously differences for Processing, but the idea of the SWW is surely to simply work less time for the same pay, and Benefits? The Rewards of the introduction of Automation.

When we had the bikes taking a Meal Break in the Cold & Rain wasn't really realistic, however now we have Vans I can't see a major problem. Fair enough it might be a cold and miserable day but we're no worse off than many other Drivers who have to take their breaks in vehicles. At least we don't have to sleep in them like Truck Drivers! Well not yet anyway.

At present a lot of Posties are booking 40 mins at the end of the day, and the DOMs paying it. I always take 20 minutes out on the round and book 20 when I get back. This is just habit though due to working in another Office where the DOM was an Asshole and would only pay 20 minutes at the end of the Duty. He used to save himself loads on his Budget. There's nearly a 1000 Delivery Offices and each one works a different system.

I feel it's very important, especially with Revisions Pending, that everyone shows just how much time it actually takes to Deliver their Duty PROPERLY. This includes Taking/Booking Meal Relief, Prepping Households in the Company's Time (Not your own)! Doing your Van Checks and now cleaning Touch Points. Otherwise it just makes it so easy for DOMs to look at the Finishing times and say, "That Duties easily done in the time perhaps it needs some work adding to it"? Don't go hiding Your Hard Work... Get paid for it.

[SpacePhoenix]

Depending on how the SWW gets implemented this time around, breaks could actually get shorter, depending on the new attendance lengths for different days

Explain how that would happen SP? There's obviously differences for Processing, but the idea of the SWW is surely to simply work less time for the same pay, and Benefits? The Rewards of the introduction of Automation.

If you attendance on a given day drops below 7 hrs then you're only entitled to 30mins. It's the same for processing and deliveries. There might be local variations. Don't have the image to hand but somewhere on the forums there should (hopefully) be an image that has got the break entitlements for different shift lengths