not in our office there's 7 gone for daft reasons in the last 5 yrs and haven't be replaced either.............Tman wrote:[="madelin4"]umm, but i bet staff in other places dont go into work knowing that the managers are just waiting to get them down conduct code and dismissed at the first chance to get rid of f-time staff?
Why, who says that happens in RM? In my experience RM bend over backwards NOT to dismiss people.
nothing wrong with that and you knew where you stood,has for today's managersGeneral Mannerheim wrote:We`ve had people get sacked for stuff that would have years ago been just taken into the office and a friendly word off the manager and told to not do it again.
Alot of the old DOM and line managers where ex army and could be hard but they also where fair unlike the shower of shite they have now.
T-Man, mayb back in the older days royal mail may have been like that but i dont think its like that any more. Well i can only say from what i see in my office and what i read on here. I dont think they go out of there way for us a lot , unless it is in their best interests, other than that we are just a number suppose like most large firms anyhow. Unless now one is a favorite of the DOM, now that is another thing, mayb those ones get of with more than the next guy.Tman wrote:[="madelin4"]umm, but i bet staff in other places dont go into work knowing that the managers are just waiting to get them down conduct code and dismissed at the first chance to get rid of f-time staff?
Why, who says that happens in RM? In my experience RM bend over backwards NOT to dismiss people.
Spot on Gustaf. There's a jobs worth attitude in this day and age and it is certainly exploited by RM. I believe that there is an atmosphere of intimidation of managers by managers which filters down to the shop floor in pettiness. Everyone knows when they have done the wrong thing but unlike the insurance company these managers today seem to take pleasure in a harsh disciplinarian manner which contrary to popular thinking is NOT good man management.General Mannerheim wrote:We`ve had people get sacked for stuff that would have years ago been just taken into the office and a friendly word off the manager and told to not do it again.
Alot of the old DOM and line managers where ex army and could be hard but they also where fair unlike the shower of shite they have now.
I think you'll find many of the managers within Royal Mail are actually ex-posties.OverloadedUK wrote:The truth is managers have a remit to f**k us over good and the arseholes are more than qualified to do just that. I personaly am gonna make a new years resolution to f**k them up as best i can. Look forward to the breadline. ROYAL MAIL IS A s**t OF A COMPANY. DEAL WITH IT.
You're so right, mate. 2008 is gonna be one hell of a year. For us postal workers it's gonna be one long battle with the loons currently mis-managing this once great institution. I'm ready to give them as good as I get. Should be an interesting year at any rate.OverloadedUK wrote:The truth is managers have a remit to f**k us over good and the arseholes are more than qualified to do just that. I personaly am gonna make a new years resolution to f**k them up as best i can. Look forward to the breadline. ROYAL MAIL IS A s**t OF A COMPANY. DEAL WITH IT.
Failed posties and glorified office boys. One thing they aren't is managers. Overpaid bag tippers, tray shifters, York shunters, shiny arsed pen pushers, certainly, but to refer to these creeps as 'managers' does the English language no favours at all. The biggest shower of strike breakers and 'yes' men this side of the Third Reich. Witless, clueless morons who wouldn't be missed if they all died tonight.Adamcarter wrote:Just glorified posties, remember that
IWW Fellow Worker wrote:Failed posties and glorified office boys. One thing they aren't is managers. Overpaid bag tippers, tray shifters, York shunters, shiny arsed pen pushers, certainly, but to refer to these creeps as 'managers' does the English language no favours at all. The biggest shower of strike breakers and 'yes' men this side of the Third Reich. Witless, clueless morons who wouldn't be missed if they all died tonight.Adamcarter wrote:Just glorified posties, remember that
Absolutely spot on 'Aint that the truth!IWW Fellow Worker wrote:Failed posties and glorified office boys. One thing they aren't is managers. Overpaid bag tippers, tray shifters, York shunters, shiny arsed pen pushers, certainly, but to refer to these creeps as 'managers' does the English language no favours at all. The biggest shower of strike breakers and 'yes' men this side of the Third Reich. Witless, clueless morons who wouldn't be missed if they all died tonight.Adamcarter wrote:Just glorified posties, remember that
I'm told that, apparently, not all managers are clowns and shouldn't be tarred with the same brush, (nice thought, but I'd go the whole hog and pluck a few thousand pigeons, if you know what I mean, no use havin' the tar but no bleedin' feathers!), and we should always bear that in mind. 
I've now left and been screwed. RM couldn't be bothered to return a reference. As a result the job offer was withdrawn. Now a case for legal aid.......k66yla wrote:I think a lot of us are considering leaving anyway as we all know whats going to happen next year. Talking to a colleague today who has been with RM for many many years he says hes had enough and will be leaving in the New Year.
Any news of validation yet? If this e-mail is genuine .. it would explain a lot that has happened in my own unit & branch lately!! AND the attitude of a senior manager to an allegation against one of his bully-boys!! 