lovejoy wrote:i'll be putting mine away ready for the potential strike action over pensions
Get real LJ - there isn't going to be a strike over the pension - you may not even get a veto vote - it may be an either/or. After all is said and done the leadership have readily agreed with RM that they cannot sustain the present level of pension contribution and so they are going to recommend acceptance of whatever proposals are put forward and the sheep will follow.
dvbuk, I remember you slagging me off a while back but I'm a big boy and can take it, even to the point of totally endorsing what your saying here. Billy n Dave sent us that letter recently which could've just as easily been signed by Alan n Adam. They're telling us we've got to accept changes in our pensions, so it's obvious what the recommendation will be, and if it's anything like the last vote we can all wave our pensions bye bye.
When the bank raises interest rates on my mortgage they don't ask me for a 60 day consultation period...... I gotta pay! The same as the government (our employers) have gotta pay!
lovejoy wrote:i'll be putting mine away ready for the potential strike action over pensions
Get real LJ - there isn't going to be a strike over the pension - you may not even get a veto vote - it may be an either/or. After all is said and done the leadership have readily agreed with RM that they cannot sustain the present level of pension contribution and so they are going to recommend acceptance of whatever proposals are put forward and the sheep will follow.
dvbuk, I remember you slagging me off a while back but I'm a big boy and can take it, even to the point of totally endorsing what your saying here. Billy n Dave sent us that letter recently which could've just as easily been signed by Alan n Adam. They're telling us we've got to accept changes in our pensions, so it's obvious what the recommendation will be, and if it's anything like the last vote we can all wave our pensions bye bye.
When the bank raises interest rates on my mortgage they don't ask me for a 60 day consultation period...... I gotta pay! The same as the government (our employers) have gotta pay!
NO CONSULTATION PERIOD!
NO CHANGES TO PENSIONS!
Of course you're a big boy who hasn't lied occasionally?
I note you mention the consultation period which we are now half way through - as with the pay deal the communication is abysmal and one way only. I and many others on this forum believed it was a done deal at the time and if I'm proved wrong I'll be on the Town Hall steps etc.
lovejoy wrote:i'll be putting mine away ready for the potential strike action over pensions
Get real LJ - there isn't going to be a strike over the pension - you may not even get a veto vote - it may be an either/or. After all is said and done the leadership have readily agreed with RM that they cannot sustain the present level of pension contribution and so they are going to recommend acceptance of whatever proposals are put forward and the sheep will follow.
DVBUK
I take it you dont agree that the present level of pension contribution is unsustainable?
I believe like many others that the pensions holiday DID contribute to the pensions shortfall in some measure. I understand the legal implications of the excess BUT the money should have been ring fenced or at least when the deficit was discovered to be so large then the Government should have made a contribution equal to the monies received by them over the years.
We shouldn't forget that the lump sum is the only element of the pension which is exempt tax - the pension itself is taxable and so the Government will still get its pound of flesh, if not from the cradle then certainly to the grave.
jafferpants wrote:My back pay was going on plastic surgury for the wife, untill the consultant took a look and said "If you havn't won the lottery i wouldn't even think about it". So iv'e just orderd her some moisturiser. The lorry's bringing it tomorrow.
Jaffs mate.... (Ello to the good lady jaffs.) How do you get away with so much banter at the good lady wife?? She must be an ANGEL....
Hi tommo About her being an angel. No she's still alive!!!!!!
We went in to holland&barret health stores the other day. while we were paying the bill the woman asked my wife if she wanted a copy of health&beauty magazine. i Said are you kidding , to little to late. Horse door and bolted come to mind.
Must go now it's time to let her out from under the stairs !!!!!
who hasn't lied occasionally? 
