Vaccine for Covid-19 would you take it?

[Woody Guthrie]

I believe that you can't with adenovirus vectored Vaccines (Oxford/AstraZeneca) you can only use them twice, initial plus booster.
If you were to use up your two goes with the adenovirus and scientists were to develop a treatment in the future for say Cancer then that treatment wouldn't be available to you as your body would have developed resistance to the adenovirus.

You're doing your half-assed research thing again.

1. One of the drawbacks of this type of vaccine is that having pre-existing immunity against adenovirus can reduce vaccine efficacy.

However this drawback can be subsided by using less prevalent serotypes, such as human adenovirus serotype 35.

2. As with any virus immunity to adenovirus reduces over time so you could still in theory use the same serotype.

3. In humans, more than 50 distinct adenoviral serotype have been found. In other mammals hundreds.

4. It doesn't even need to be adenovirus that's used as a vector, it's just a very stable vector that's had a great deal of research done on it, in the future we might find something even more suitable, certainly more likely than a cancer magic bullet any time soon.

[milly]

I believe that you can't with adenovirus vectored Vaccines (Oxford/AstraZeneca) you can only use them twice, initial plus booster.
If you were to use up your two goes with the adenovirus and scientists were to develop a treatment in the future for say Cancer then that treatment wouldn't be available to you as your body would have developed resistance to the adenovirus.

You're doing your half-assed research thing again.

1. One of the drawbacks of this type of vaccine is that having pre-existing immunity against adenovirus can reduce vaccine efficacy.

However this drawback can be subsided by using less prevalent serotypes, such as human adenovirus serotype 35.

2. As with any virus immunity to adenovirus reduces over time so you could still in theory use the same serotype.

3. In humans, more than 50 distinct adenoviral serotype have been found. In other mammals hundreds.

4. It doesn't even need to be adenovirus that's used as a vector, it's just a very stable vector that's had a great deal of research done on it, in the future we might find something even more suitable, certainly more likely than a cancer magic bullet any time soon.

There are many adenoviruses but the most usable are Human and Chimpanzee, you can use other vectors but you would have to then start from scratch, so it isn't just a case of altering the Vaccine.

[Partyondude]

Speaking of half assed research


This is not a vaccine.

We need to be really clear. We’re using the term “vaccine” to sneak this thing under public health exemptions.

This is not a vaccine. This is an mRNA packaged in a fat envelope, that is delivered to a cell.

It is a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming a pathogen creator.

It is not a vaccine. Vaccines actually are a legally defined term, and they’re a legally defined term under public health law.

And a vaccine specifically has to stimulate both an immunity within the person who is receiving it, but it also has to disrupt transmission.

And that is not what this is. They have been abundantly clear in saying that the mRNA strand that is going into the cell, it is not to stop transmission. It is a treatment.

But if it was discussed as a treatment, it would not get the sympathetic ear of the public health authorities, because then people would say, well what other treatments are there?

[Woody Guthrie]

It is not a vaccine. Vaccines actually are a legally defined term, and they’re a legally defined term under public health law.

Show me this legal definition and the "public health law" it is under.

And a vaccine specifically has to stimulate both an immunity within the person who is receiving it, but it also has to disrupt transmission.

Show me where it specifies that.

Think a little harder, even using your bogus definition any treatment or vaccine that confers immunity in a human to human disease and therefore reduces symptoms disrupts transmission. If you're not coughing you've disrupted transmission.

The main reason why your definition fails completely though is Tetanus.
Tetanus has a vaccine.
It does not disrupt transmission.
It can't really when you think about it.

[sindba]

Speaking of half assed research


This is not a vaccine.

We need to be really clear. We’re using the term “vaccine” to sneak this thing under public health exemptions.

This is not a vaccine. This is an mRNA packaged in a fat envelope, that is delivered to a cell.

It is a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming a pathogen creator.

It is not a vaccine. Vaccines actually are a legally defined term, and they’re a legally defined term under public health law.

And a vaccine specifically has to stimulate both an immunity within the person who is receiving it, but it also has to disrupt transmission.

And that is not what this is. They have been abundantly clear in saying that the mRNA strand that is going into the cell, it is not to stop transmission. It is a treatment.

But if it was discussed as a treatment, it would not get the sympathetic ear of the public health authorities, because then people would say, well what other treatments are there?

Complete and utter codswallop. The mRNA mimics the Covid spike protein, stimulating the body's immune response. In other words, a flipping vaccine.

Jeez Woody, how do you have the patience to continue engaging these fruitloops?

And I thought Admin said they'd get on top of this kind of dangerous, lethal, misinformation spreading here?

[sindba]

Ban them. Just get rid.

This kind of crap will kill people.

[Acca Dacca]

Ban them. Just get rid.

This kind of crap will kill people.

In real life I wind the anti-vax mob up by saying with a smile 'aww yer really just scared of a little needle arent ye? It wont hurt I promise!'

They HATE it

[RTP]

Just ignore them. They will soon be screaming to get it done when they realise they can't go abroad on holiday.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Thread locked as it went away from the original question and ended up becoming a Vaccine Debate, which as I have said before is neither appropriate for this forum, nor for the posters themselves.

If you deny COVID or are against the Vaccine then please, as previously asked, go to another more suitable forum, there are plenty of them available.