leaked e-mail to doms

jafferpants · Post by **jafferpants** » 13 Dec 2007, 14:52

Have to be careful here but an e-mail sent country wide to doms has been intercepted. It reads from january managers are to give us hell and make things as uncomfortable as they can. The aim is to get as many as possible to leave rm to avoid paying the Â£400 due later in year.

greynut · Post by **greynut** » 13 Dec 2007, 14:53

jafferpants wrote:Have to be careful here but an e-mail sent country wide to doms has been intercepted. It reads from january managers are to give us hell and make things as uncomfortable as they can. The aim is to get as many as possible to leave rm to avoid paying the Â£400 due later in year.

Get a copy and put on the CWU website. Leaked memos are put in the public domain all the time.

f**k 'em.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 13 Dec 2007, 15:15

greynut wrote:
jafferpants wrote:Have to be careful here but an e-mail sent country wide to doms has been intercepted. It reads from january managers are to give us hell and make things as uncomfortable as they can. The aim is to get as many as possible to leave rm to avoid paying the Â£400 due later in year.
Get a copy and put on the CWU website. Leaked memos are put in the public domain all the time.

f**k 'em.

To get the Â£400 you will have to have completed depolyment of phase 2 of the modernisation process and is part of a dividend payment of colleague share's and the Â£400 is due in april 2008 so three to four month's of hell!.

norbet colon · Post by **norbet colon** » 13 Dec 2007, 15:26

k979aaa wrote:
greynut wrote:
jafferpants wrote:Have to be careful here but an e-mail sent country wide to doms has been intercepted. It reads from january managers are to give us hell and make things as uncomfortable as they can. The aim is to get as many as possible to leave rm to avoid paying the Â£400 due later in year.
Get a copy and put on the CWU website. Leaked memos are put in the public domain all the time.

f**k 'em.
To get the Â£400 you will have to have completed depolyment of phase 2 of the modernisation process and is part of a dividend payment of colleague share's and the Â£400 is due in april 2008 so three to four month's of hell!.

To quote a infamous Hellmail Moderator -" I really "feel" for the older staff as the job will be changed out of all recognition " -RM "There will be change at a pace like never before " .Please get that email on the net ,RM can take another shafting -all's fair in love & war & it's not exactly the first time the cat's been let out of the bag i.e. spying in 03 -Guardian & Star + Pensions -Mirror :Let the CWU HQ "Communications deal with it ???Applause

-nothing surprises me with Senior Mgt

- Cheers Billy & Dave ! RE :-CONSTRUCTIVE DISMISSAL -Rm's stance is you have to prove that RM constructed

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 13 Dec 2007, 15:31

jafferpants wrote:Have to be careful here but an e-mail sent country wide to doms has been intercepted. It reads from january managers are to give us hell and make things as uncomfortable as they can. The aim is to get as many as possible to leave rm to avoid paying the Â£400 due later in year.

If its true and its a big if - it could cause another nationwide strike imho. As not only will they be going against the spirit of the agreement they will also open themselves up to loads of ITs. If they do it too much there may be a chance of combining them and calling it a class action.

CWU better get this years diary's out fast as I for one will be entering loads of details in it if they do try - my last 3 words on this post if the rumour is true:

Constructive Dismissal Case.

Stormproof · Post by **Stormproof** » 13 Dec 2007, 15:33

I think alot of us are considering leaving anyway as we all know whats going to happen next year. Talking to a colleague today who has been with RM for many many years he says hes had enough and will be leaving in the New Year.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 13 Dec 2007, 15:42

"To create a working environment where employees, CWU reps and managers feel valued and motivated" from phase 3 paragraph 4 of the transforming the way we work!. IT DID NOT TAKE THEM LONG THEN DID IT!.

Fluke · Post by **Fluke** » 13 Dec 2007, 16:32

Have you actually seen the email and verified its not a fake? If so can you not just edit the recipients name and post it up, and lets see what these dirty ba***rds are up to.

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 13 Dec 2007, 16:53

Yea lets see it! Looks like they are out to treat us even worse than the norm!!! makes me mad!

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 13 Dec 2007, 16:55

Fluke wrote:Have you actually seen the email and verified its not a fake? If so can you not just edit the recipients name and post it up, and lets see what these dirty ba***rds are up to.

maybe best to pm it to postman first and let him edit it.

Post by **dvbuk55** » 13 Dec 2007, 17:26

k66yla wrote:I think a lot of us are considering leaving anyway as we all know whats going to happen next year. Talking to a colleague today who has been with RM for many many years he says hes had enough and will be leaving in the New Year.

I know things aren't too good at the moment and many people feel stressed with the pay and new deal business but there is a a camaraderie at most work places. It is important to maintain a sense of humour no matter how bad things are they can get better. I'd think carefully before moving on because there's only so many working hours in a day - so work em - go home and forget RM exists - it is only a job not a way of, but there are some advantages not least of all there is still a union presence - not that it is particularly strong at present - but many places have no union protection at all.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 13 Dec 2007, 18:07

jafferpants wrote:Have to be careful here but an e-mail sent country wide to doms has been intercepted. It reads from january managers are to give us hell and make things as uncomfortable as they can. The aim is to get as many as possible to leave rm to avoid paying the Â£400 due later in year.

Should of got the proof 1st before posting!!
Any chance i can see it.

postman@royalmailchat.co.uk

andy2007 · Post by **andy2007** » 14 Dec 2007, 10:02

k979aaa wrote:"To create a working environment where employees, CWU reps and managers feel valued and motivated" from phase 3 paragraph 4 of the transforming the way we work!. IT DID NOT TAKE THEM LONG THEN DID IT!.

I think they might just be putting a spin on it. As the managers will feel valued, and we will feel motivated to leave!

Tman · Post by **Tman** » 14 Dec 2007, 10:58

I know things aren't too good at the moment and many people feel stressed with the pay and new deal business but there is a a camaraderie at most work places. It is important to maintain a sense of humour no matter how bad things are they can get better. I'd think carefully before moving on because there's only so many working hours in a day - so work em - go home and forget RM exists - it is only a job not a way of, but there are some advantages not least of all there is still a union presence - not that it is particularly strong at present - but many places have no union protection at all.

Wise words. Take a look at how much cabbies, burger-flippers and B&Q staff (for instance) are paid and the conditions they work under before jumping ship. Many in the "real world" would swap places in a heartbeat, regardless of how bad potential changes in RM working conditions may look.

madelin4 · Post by **madelin4** » 14 Dec 2007, 12:28

umm, but i bet staff in other places dont go into work knowing that the managers are just waiting to get them down conduct code and dismissed at the first chance to get rid of f-time staff? I would say they want us all to be part-time or go part-time?

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