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The Pathway to Change National Briefings

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Martin Walsh
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The Pathway to Change National Briefings

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Dear Colleagues,

NATIONAL BRIEFINGS - RMG & CWU KEY PRINCIPLES FRAMEWORK AGREEMENT (THE PATHWAY TO CHANGE)

In line with our communications prior to Christmas, we now write to set out a series of Briefings and live sessions that will give our senior Representatives and local Representatives the opportunity to gain information on the new agreement and importantly put questions to the union’s leadership.

In order to provide you with the most detailed Briefing process possible, you will note we have produced a series of events. These are set out below. Attendees at the full National Briefing on Thursday 7th January should be as follows:

· Postal Branch Secretaries (or their substitute)
· Divisional Representatives (Including Technical Services)
· Regional Secretaries
· Parcelforce Regional Organisers
· Royal Mail Property and Facility Solutions Cleaning Regional Representatives
· Royal Mail Property and Facility Solutions Engineering Regional Representatives
· Royal Mail Property and Facility Solutions Engineering National Representatives
· Area Delivery Representatives
· Area Processing Representatives
· Area Distribution Representatives
· Area Safety Representatives
· Area Admin Representatives
· Customer Experience Representatives
· Branches should note that in line with our proportionality requirements and previous
attendance arrangements at National Briefings, it is requested that in addition to the above each Branch send two Unit Reps to the Briefing, one of which must be a woman.



Attendees at the functional/business based Briefings should be the relevant Area Representatives/Branch Officials.
Each individual attending the various Briefings will have to register in advance via the links provided below.
It is also critical that you advertise the Facebook Live sessions as widely as possible amongst our local Representatives and members.
BRIEFINGS
Thursday 7th January 10am - 1pm - National Briefing
Deputy General Secretary (Postal) and General Secretary to outline agreement and take questions from Branches on key elements and overall package.
Link to register: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/registe ... w2C9Ep_O3F

Thursday 7th January 2pm - 5pm - Parcelforce Briefing
Davie Robertson, Assistant Secretary.
Link to register: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/registe ... BgwUgcf-eS


Friday 8th January 10am - 1pm - Deliveries, Processing, Distribution and Logistics Briefing
Mark Baulch, Assistant Secretary and Davie Robertson, Assistant Secretary.
Link to register: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/registe ... KrnOh_56uV


Friday 8th January 10am - 1pm - MDEC/Customer Experience
Andy Furey, Assistant Secretary.
Link to register: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/registe ... fv0QQcu4mO

Friday 8th January 2pm - 5pm – Fleet and Engineering Briefing
Carl Maden, Acting Assistant Secretary.
Link to register: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/registe ... elv51rrasZ

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FACEBOOK LIVE SESSIONS

Monday 11th January 6pm - 7pm - Facebook Live on Overall Agreement
Deputy General Secretary (Postal) and General Secretary.

Tuesday 12th January 7pm - 8pm - Facebook Live - Processing/Distribution/Logistics/Parcelforce Davie Robertson, Assistant Secretary.
Wednesday 13th January 6pm - 7pm - Facebook Live - Deliveries
Mark Baulch, Assistant Secretary.

Thursday 14th January 6pm - 7pm - Facebook Live - Fleet and Engineering
Carl Maden, Acting Assistant Secretary.

Friday 15th January 5pm - 6pm – Facebook Live - MDEC/Customer Experience
Andy Furey, Assistant Secretary.
Any enquiries in relation to the content of this LTB should be addressed to the DGS(P) Department.

Yours sincerely,
Terry Pullinger Dave Ward
Deputy General Secretary (Postal) General Secretary
Woody Guthrie
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Surely this has to be cancelled now Martin as well as any thoughts about revisions and major changes in the short term.
Only dead fish follow the current
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Well its looking like another 9 months of hell, so we'll probably need a new agreement.
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How are these revisions going to be planned amongst the chaos that is COVID and another national lockdown. Our office spends every single day putting out fires and just about getting the tracked done, frames full of Mail/standard parcels left every single day. Be interesting how the managers are going to plan a revision around that? Or are these revisions just going to be lumped upon us using dodgy pda data that doesn’t take into account the early starters and corner cutters?
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Post by worktotime »

please tell us why Terry isnt telling the members what this agreement actually means ? because i think most members dont have a clue as the agreement is a complete joke , and it would be nice as paying members as to what is what.
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This “agreement” has been deliberately left as vague as possible. It is a complete sell out. What are the 24 outstanding important issues that still have to be negotiated before they can be shoe horned into this agreement? Perhaps Mr Walsh may care to list them all so the membership of the union can actually see what they are voting for...... What are they?
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renrag40 wrote:
05 Jan 2021, 02:13
This “agreement” has been deliberately left as vague as possible. It is a complete sell out. What are the 24 outstanding important issues that still have to be negotiated before they can be shoe horned into this agreement? Perhaps Mr Walsh may care to list them all so the membership of the union can actually see what they are voting for...... What are they?
Is it even worth the paper it's printed on
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Post by RICARD020191962 »

I really don't understand the attitude of the people who are very angry about this deal. More money, no threat of job losses and an hour less of work to come. End of. Our job will still be the same in essence. Delivery of letters and packets. Collection of mail from boxes and customers. Processing of mail in MC will continue. Why is everybody so concerned about what they don't know rather than what is there in black and white. If things change in the future then we may have to adapt again to the change but again we'll still be doing the same job as we are doing now. As for revisions, it would be ludicrous to even attempt these in the current climate. Let's wait until the vaccine has had a chance to have an effect before we try and make any major changes.
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RICARD020191962 wrote:
05 Jan 2021, 11:08
I really don't understand the attitude of the people who are very angry about this deal. More money, no threat of job losses and an hour less of work to come. End of. Our job will still be the same in essence. Delivery of letters and packets. Collection of mail from boxes and customers. Processing of mail in MC will continue. Why is everybody so concerned about what they don't know rather than what is there in black and white. If things change in the future then we may have to adapt again to the change but again we'll still be doing the same job as we are doing now. As for revisions, it would be ludicrous to even attempt these in the current climate. Let's wait until the vaccine has had a chance to have an effect before we try and make any major changes.
There are 24 points still to be negotiated are you happy to vote blind on these points
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Post by JKSmudge »

We know the outcome of this charade.....

Gullible reps will listen awe-struck at the mutterings of Terry etc and will return gushing with promises of a great new future (like they did in 2018).

A pay rise and more work in less contractual hours will ensue and everyone will wonder why we have so many failures :crazy:

Hope someone will ask wethr the agreement will secure some basic requirements for offices - Sufficient toilets and hot water. Also heating and improved lighting would be nice.
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Woody Guthrie wrote:
04 Jan 2021, 20:26
Surely this has to be cancelled now Martin as well as any thoughts about revisions and major changes in the short term.
Surely getting revisions done quickly should be one thing that the union needs to be pushing for, using data from the last 12 months and arguing that online shopping has become the new normal. For the first time in years reps should be in a position of strength to argue for hours to be put in to business areas rather than removed and for more full-time jobs. The agreement provides for regular revisions, so if workloads do drop when the pandemic is over then the next revision will be able to take account of that, but if the principle is to be that these revisions will react to the changing nature of the business going forward then we need to use the workloads of the last 12 months to hold management feet to the fire this time.
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Post by scooby doo »

P13 wrote:
05 Jan 2021, 11:23
RICARD020191962 wrote:
05 Jan 2021, 11:08
I really don't understand the attitude of the people who are very angry about this deal. More money, no threat of job losses and an hour less of work to come. End of. Our job will still be the same in essence. Delivery of letters and packets. Collection of mail from boxes and customers. Processing of mail in MC will continue. Why is everybody so concerned about what they don't know rather than what is there in black and white. If things change in the future then we may have to adapt again to the change but again we'll still be doing the same job as we are doing now. As for revisions, it would be ludicrous to even attempt these in the current climate. Let's wait until the vaccine has had a chance to have an effect before we try and make any major changes.
There are 24 points still to be negotiated are you happy to vote blind on these points

YES!!! MOST DEFINITLEY!!!
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Schiff wrote:
05 Jan 2021, 11:51
Woody Guthrie wrote:
04 Jan 2021, 20:26
Surely this has to be cancelled now Martin as well as any thoughts about revisions and major changes in the short term.
Surely getting revisions done quickly should be one thing that the union needs to be pushing for, using data from the last 12 months and arguing that online shopping has become the new normal. For the first time in years reps should be in a position of strength to argue for hours to be put in to business areas rather than removed and for more full-time jobs. The agreement provides for regular revisions, so if workloads do drop when the pandemic is over then the next revision will be able to take account of that, but if the principle is to be that these revisions will react to the changing nature of the business going forward then we need to use the workloads of the last 12 months to hold management feet to the fire this time.
The revisions in most offices will consist of them creating a couple of parcel deliveries to do some oversized off walks, they will then say because you've lost those parcels they can take some walks out and create new bigger ones. Anyone who thinks they want revisions for any other reason than saving money is deluded
RICARD020191962
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Post by RICARD020191962 »

I don't see the point in Covid driven revisions if it's not going to be around forever. Would rather wait and see how the job looks if and when hopefully life returns to normal. As for voting blind, I don't see it that way, I'm voting for what is set out in front of me. There will always be other issues to sort out in the future, let's deal with them accordingly when the time comes around. For now, it's
1) Payrise
2) No compulsory redundancies
3) Hour less of work

That'll do for me.
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RICARD020191962 wrote:
05 Jan 2021, 16:24
I don't see the point in Covid driven revisions if it's not going to be around forever. Would rather wait and see how the job looks if and when hopefully life returns to normal. As for voting blind, I don't see it that way, I'm voting for what is set out in front of me. There will always be other issues to sort out in the future, let's deal with them accordingly when the time comes around. For now, it's
1) Payrise
2) No compulsory redundancies
3) Hour less of work

That'll do for me.
There are still 24 points to be negotiated how can anyone vote blind on them