THE PATHWAY TO CHANGE!

[k979aaa]

surely an hour of the working week means doing ten minutes less per day on delivery so where are tha savings coming from until the uso is changed they obviously think we can graft a lot harder than we doing at the minute can see a lot of problems ahead with possible extra workload in less time. the pay deal is decent but the rest has many holes in it especially for the older long servers who are struggling physically about time the union addressed this problem with vrs or 3 day weeks for those that want it or need it

It has more hole than Boris's underpants the whole thing has clearly not been thought through!

[mags999]

the delivery staff are goin to be thrown to the wolves with these revisions watch it unfold in an office near you please feel free to reply in 3 to 6 months time

[aiden01]

the delivery staff are goin to be thrown to the wolves with these revisions watch it unfold in an office near you please feel free to reply in 3 to 6 months time

Well if delivery staff vote no it will be a big no vote then please dont comeback in 3 to 6 months time blaming processing staff if its a yes vote.

[k979aaa]

the delivery staff are goin to be thrown to the wolves with these revisions watch it unfold in an office near you please feel free to reply in 3 to 6 months time

That is why a vote of objection/rejection of the so called agreement is done by all this is not a negation of discussion but a bloody war!

[mags999]

i wont be voting no just want more protection from the union concerning revision its a lot easier pushing a few letters around a bench than delivering an extra hour in all weathers but then again you wont know about that

[k979aaa]

2.9 Attendance and other Policies
Negotiations on Attendance and other policies will continue. Any final agreement from the
discussions will form part of this agreement.
It's the deal that never ends it just keeps on giving bit like Covid-19

[JKSmudge]

Why are the leadership so obsessed with securing a reduction in hours? Many walks were just about doable at 39 hours, now 38 and they want us to cram it into 37 with a huge increase in parcels/packets and it seems RM want to increase D2D too.

Whatever happens, not everyone will be happy, but as shown from the comments, some people are never happy....As for the argument about ' it's only 3.7% over 2 years ', It is 2.7% then another 1% in April followed by 2.63% ( think I've worked that out correctly) with the hour off. That makes 6.455% between now and October.

[mags999]

as they say delivery staff will be screwed over with this deal if the union let the doms rule the roost with these revisions

[k979aaa]

i wont be voting no just want more protection from the union concerning revision its a lot easier pushing a few letters around a bench than delivering an extra hour in all weathers but then again you wont know about that

Done more deliveries than you had cups of tea love. voting NO is a kick up the arse of the union not going against them it is time they got their own act together!

[k979aaa]

Why are the leadership so obsessed with securing a reduction in hours? Many walks were just about doable at 39 hours, now 38 and they want us to cram it into 37 with a huge increase in parcels/packets and it seems RM want to increase D2D too.

Whatever happens, not everyone will be happy, but as shown from the comments, some people are never happy....As for the argument about ' it's only 3.7% over 2 years ', It is 2.7% then another 1% in April followed by 2.63% ( think I've worked that out correctly) with the hour off. That makes 6.455% between now and October.

Decline in mail volumes ie less time prepping more deliveries and span even the most ardent postman cannot argue the very facts! Hence the reduction in the working week it will save jobs!

[SpacePhoenix]

the delivery staff are goin to be thrown to the wolves with these revisions watch it unfold in an office near you please feel free to reply in 3 to 6 months time

Well if delivery staff vote no it will be a big no vote then please dont comeback in 3 to 6 months time blaming processing staff if its a yes vote.

Delivery staff outnumber processing staff by 2:1 (probably more likely 3:1 by now) so whether it's voted for or against it'll be by delivery staff

[k979aaa]

the delivery staff are goin to be thrown to the wolves with these revisions watch it unfold in an office near you please feel free to reply in 3 to 6 months time

Well if delivery staff vote no it will be a big no vote then please dont comeback in 3 to 6 months time blaming processing staff if its a yes vote.

Delivery staff outnumber processing staff by 2:1 (probably more likely 3:1 by now) so whether it's voted for or against it'll be by delivery staff

Greed and avarice will supplant the yes votes on here for their is no conviction of the the souls these days!

[worktotime]

surely an hour of the working week means doing ten minutes less per day on delivery so where are tha savings coming from until the uso is changed they obviously think we can graft a lot harder than we doing at the minute can see a lot of problems ahead with possible extra workload in less time. the pay deal is decent but the rest has many holes in it especially for the older long servers who are struggling physically about time the union addressed this problem with vrs or 3 day weeks for those that want it or need it

it will mean you would start 10 mins later in a morning like the last time , and not finish 10 mins early , its another crock of s**t imo.

[mickeymacca]

Why are the leadership so obsessed with securing a reduction in hours? Many walks were just about doable at 39 hours, now 38 and they want us to cram it into 37 with a huge increase in parcels/packets and it seems RM want to increase D2D too.

Whatever happens, not everyone will be happy, but as shown from the comments, some people are never happy....As for the argument about ' it's only 3.7% over 2 years ', It is 2.7% then another 1% in April followed by 2.63% ( think I've worked that out correctly) with the hour off. That makes 6.455% between now and October.

The mismanagement of the indoor work in my DO adds unnecessary excess to many duties. It's the main part of the job that management should be on top of because they can directly see and influence how the process works, unlike delivery (PDA's aside). It seems the more conscientious workers stick to the workplan while the management avoid confrontation with those who flout it or are inflexible from deviating from their originally delegated task. IMO there are easy time savings to be made in this area, whether that is negated by the additional outdoor work is another matter, another 10 minutes or so in bed would be good though, surely...

[Woody Guthrie]

Delivery staff outnumber processing staff by 2:1 (probably more likely 3:1 by now) so whether it's voted for or against it'll be by delivery staff

That's not quite how a yes/no ballot works.
If for instance delivery is split 50/50 on the deal it would likely be carried by processing staff.

It's all pretty irrelevant though because it's very likely to be carried by a large majority across the functions so it's on all of us.

What we were actually promised 2 years ago by the union was a delivery specific agreement that would be ratified by delivery members.
It never happened.