Sunday working

[2yearpostie]

It’s around £16 an hour and there are no collections just drops and 1st hour in depot unloading one trailer then loading van

Geez that's sh!t!!!! I was on more than that over 20 years ago in a previous job.

£16 for delivering probably 2 parcels an hour (if lats are anything to go by) is easy money.

[aiden01]

It’s around £16 an hour and there are no collections just drops and 1st hour in depot unloading one trailer then loading van

Geez that's sh!t!!!! I was on more than that over 20 years ago in a previous job.

£16 for delivering probably 2 parcels an hour (if lats are anything to go by) is easy money.

Also a few pound more than an opg gets for working on a sunday.

[Sugar]

It’s around £16 an hour and there are no collections just drops and 1st hour in depot unloading one trailer then loading van

Geez that's sh!t!!!! I was on more than that over 20 years ago in a previous job.

£16 for delivering probably 2 parcels an hour (if lats are anything to go by) is easy money.

They are not going to pay £16 an hour for delivering 2 parcels an hour, it wouldn't be worth the effort. RM will have already worked out what they expect people to do and that, you'll all find out in the coming months and the next couple of years as they slowly switch to a 7 day a week delivery model.

[2yearpostie]

they worked out ppl would use the lat system and its rare to get more than 15 each day in my office

[Sugar]

they worked out ppl would use the lat system and its rare to get more than 15 each day in my office

That'll go up as they move towards less DO's delivering oversized parcels and start to centralise parcel deliveries to the few hundred they said were going to be doing it. The other DO's will just see an increase in duty sizes to offset the oversized parcels they've lost. IMHO. RM will have had all this worked out a year or two back and time will tell what type of shift patterns and new delivery models they bring out.

[Woody Guthrie]

Royal Mail at the moment believe that there is unless our pay rate for Sunday changes that there is not a product worth advertising to the customer

Well the only thing you can take from that and the fact that Royal Mail want 24/7 capability is that they believe that Sunday working should not attract any premium.

If that's the case we're not talking about volunteers because there won't be any, we're talking about having Sunday built into duty sets following a revision.

So do you believe seniority is appropriate in a repick that might force junior members into Sunday working?

[2yearpostie]

Think it will be a case of everybody having to work 1in7 regardless of time served when its built into duties, bit like the 1 in 6 for saturdays now

[mags999]

would of thought creating sat- sun duties would be a lot more straight forward

[postslippete]

I'm not against people working a Sunday

However, I'm totally with the Union that it should be "voluntary" and attract a "slightly higher wage". Royal Mail simply want to pay their staff the basic rate for working on a Sunday and if that happens we might all end up working the odd Sunday.

[k979aaa]

I'm not against people working a Sunday

However, I'm totally with the Union that it should be "voluntary" and attract a "slightly higher wage". Royal Mail simply want to pay their staff the basic rate for working on a Sunday and if that happens we might all end up working the odd Sunday.

Is completion of your walk voluntary? some said lapsing/absorption was only if you had time? What if you had commitments? Questions need to be asked!

[charlatans]

I would like more detail on what 24/7 entails. What am i signing up for here. In the m/c there are saturday nightshifts and if you get a parcel machine that will require postal and engineering on a sat night. Only time of the week i am guaranteed off at the moment
Would be looking for more than an annual pay rise for that shift to be put on my rota

[HTPostman]

Again someone probably knows more about the legal situation than me but unless it’s in your contract you can’t be forced to work Sunday. The only way you can be made to work Sunday is by being given and signing a new contract agreeing to it.

I think this is where it gets interesting:

‘It is illegal for an employer to discriminate against a member of staff because of his or her religion.’

Suppose you’re a Christian (or another religion) post worker who’s contract states you only work Monday to Saturday. RM ask you to sign a new contract with Sunday working. If you refuse and they terminate your current contract I wonder if that counts as discrimination.

Like others say, we need a lot more details first.

[Woody Guthrie]

Your contract is continuously changing through the act of collective bargaining.

If an agreement to work Sundays is negotiated by the union and accepted by the membership it becomes part of your contract.

That doesn't mean that the laws surrounding discrimination based on religious grounds can be circumvented though.

[SpacePhoenix]

Again someone probably knows more about the legal situation than me but unless it’s in your contract you can’t be forced to work Sunday. The only way you can be made to work Sunday is by being given and signing a new contract agreeing to it.

I think this is where it gets interesting:

‘It is illegal for an employer to discriminate against a member of staff because of his or her religion.’

Suppose you’re a Christian (or another religion) post worker who’s contract states you only work Monday to Saturday. RM ask you to sign a new contract with Sunday working. If you refuse and they terminate your current contract I wonder if that counts as discrimination.

Like others say, we need a lot more details first.

or a similar scenario, a complete new set of duties get introduced with some having Sunday working. A full office resign happens and by the time it gets down to someone all the duties that don't include working Sundays have already gone

[2yearpostie]

Again someone probably knows more about the legal situation than me but unless it’s in your contract you can’t be forced to work Sunday. The only way you can be made to work Sunday is by being given and signing a new contract agreeing to it.

I think this is where it gets interesting:

‘It is illegal for an employer to discriminate against a member of staff because of his or her religion.’

Suppose you’re a Christian (or another religion) post worker who’s contract states you only work Monday to Saturday. RM ask you to sign a new contract with Sunday working. If you refuse and they terminate your current contract I wonder if that counts as discrimination.

Like others say, we need a lot more details first.

or a similar scenario, a complete new set of duties get introduced with some having Sunday working. A full office resign happens and by the time it gets down to someone all the duties that don't include working Sundays have already gone

wouldnt happen, to be fair to all workers it would be a rotation of sunday working, or maybe no body will have a duty any more and everyone will float.