'Disillusioned' postman took cash

saru · Post by **saru** » 11 Dec 2007, 18:53

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/7139273.stm

We're all disillusioned, but it doesn't drive us to theft! Why do they do it??

IWW Fellow Worker · Post by **IWW Fellow Worker** » 11 Dec 2007, 19:03

saru wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/7139273.stm

We're all disillusioned, but it doesn't drive us to theft! Why do they do it??

Of course we are, but why he can't do what the rest of us do and follow a sport, read books, go to the pub, go fishing etc. eludes me.

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 11 Dec 2007, 19:19

postman stole Â£1,200 from mail after he became disillusioned with his job, a court has heard.

James Garrard, 52, of Beccles, Suffolk, admitted stealing cash from three packages a week over a year on his round, at Norwich Magistrates Court.

Garrard, a postman for 29 years, who had a round in Tharston, Norfolk, pleaded guilty to two counts of theft.

The court ordered Garrard to pay Â£400 costs and he was given a six-month jail term suspended for two years.

A six-month curfew between 1900 GMT and 0600 GMT was also imposed on Garrard.

The court heard how an inquiry was launched after a member of the public reported seeing Garrard opening packages in his Royal Mail van.

His actions followed his disillusionment with his job, prosecutor Simon Nicholls said.

"The job had been getting him down," he said.

"He said, due to changes, he was not able to have a laugh and a joke any more and his delivery round was getting bigger."

Ted Bell, mitigating, asked the court not to jail Garrard who had been suffering from severe burns he received in an accident and needed regularly medical attention.

"He is in a very bad way as a result of the severe burns that have left him in an extremely vulnerable condition," he said.

Night Tonic · Post by **Night Tonic** » 11 Dec 2007, 20:54

He stole the cash because his ingrowing toenail was playing him up - might just as well have said that!

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 11 Dec 2007, 21:22

Yeh sack the bastard ,burnt to a crisp for all we know ,severe physical disfigurement concommitant psychological trauma, just like having an ingrowing toenail,worthless piece of shite is swinging the lead.

Ever suffered 1st degree burns Shite Tonic?

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Adamcarter · Post by **Adamcarter** » 11 Dec 2007, 21:28

BELIAL wrote:Yeh sack the bastard ,burnt to a crisp for all we know ,severe physical disfigurement concommitant psychological trauma, just like having an ingrowing toenail,worthless piece of shite is swinging the lead.

Ever suffered 1st degree burns Shite Tonic?

Is their really any need for this kind of vitriol???

You really don't know this person's personal circumstances, fair enough the person had commited a crime.

Has anyone on this forum never made a mistake???

I think not!

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BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 11 Dec 2007, 22:02

Spot on AC "ingrowing toenail" you scumbag night tonic

Adamcarter · Post by **Adamcarter** » 11 Dec 2007, 22:10

BELIAL wrote:Spot on AC "ingrowing toenail" you scumbag night tonic

Ever thought you may not be psychologicaly sound Belial???

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 11 Dec 2007, 23:09

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:postman stole Â£1,200 from mail after he became disillusioned with his job, a court has heard.

James Garrard, 52, of Beccles, Suffolk, admitted stealing cash from three packages a week over a year on his round, at Norwich Magistrates Court.

Garrard, a postman for 29 years, who had a round in Tharston, Norfolk, pleaded guilty to two counts of theft.

The court ordered Garrard to pay Â£400 costs and he was given a six-month jail term suspended for two years.

A six-month curfew between 1900 GMT and 0600 GMT was also imposed on Garrard.

The court heard how an inquiry was launched after a member of the public reported seeing Garrard opening packages in his Royal Mail van.

His actions followed his disillusionment with his job, prosecutor Simon Nicholls said.

"The job had been getting him down," he said.

"He said, due to changes, he was not able to have a laugh and a joke any more and his delivery round was getting bigger."

Ted Bell, mitigating, asked the court not to jail Garrard who had been suffering from severe burns he received in an accident and needed regularly medical attention.

"He is in a very bad way as a result of the severe burns that have left him in an extremely vulnerable condition," he said.

I feel sorry for the bloke after all it was only Â£ 1200 it's not alot is it for a life of shame but he will never have as much shame as this man :cfo Â£ 1.20000 stolen under false pretenses!. FOR HAVE YOU NO SHAME ADAM :cfo !.

L Tommo · Post by **L Tommo** » 11 Dec 2007, 23:18

Now i aint got no time for this geezer robbing Â£1200 and being caught... The fact he had 1st degree burns MIGHT of made a difference in his mental state.. Not for us to say..... But he still knew what he was doing was wrong.... HE made all of us look bad... Its the same over... Now.....
This is the flip side and be fair... If he was avin it away with Â£120.000.00 then i would of said... "UNLUCKY SON AND WHAT TYPE OF PORRIDGE DO YOU LIKE??" And he would of deserved it... Having his sentence suspended for two years is about right i say... In light of the medical evidence IF it shows Him to be Mentally Affected... If not... Should of banged him up for at least 2yrs...

:lfo :cfo I blame these two!!!

norbet colon · Post by **norbet colon** » 12 Dec 2007, 00:41

BELIAL wrote:Spot on AC "ingrowing toenail" you scumbag night tonic

probably a very bitter person with a chip on his shoulder and thought RM or the world owed him something with big problems & issues as a result of , the burns may have pushed over the edge , is that fair comment ?

IF he suffered burns whilst on delivery , he'd have had no sympathy off don't give ATOSS & probably been smeared as a malingerer & B&H-d back to work .

He sounds very self centered but he'd hardly be only one in RM like that . Maybe the judge was too lenient , could have had a good solictor that spun a good line , could be playing on it ,though it's not something you'd wish on anyone , may have got psychiatric reports to save him from jail ; who knows ?

There's been cases of RM ignoring a Â£12,000 package theft as it took place on a loading bay not outside & keeping his job , cases of staff stealing diesel and then working for a parcel firm .

andy2007 · Post by **andy2007** » 12 Dec 2007, 05:36

I find it hard to believe that he was able to perform his normal duties with severe burns. So I assume that it happened after the incidents. If I'm right, then he shouldn't have had his sentence suspended. He could have been treated whilst in Jail. If I'm wrong, then I can understand, BUT NEVER CONDONE, what he did, as he shouldn't have been expected to work while suffering that type of injury.

I realise that we all make mistakes, and he will have to live with the shame of what he did. But please remember: he was in a position of trust, just like the rest of us. If the Public can't rely on our honesty, then they won't use us. Just because we deliver "the final mile" for our Competitors, doesn't mean that we won't be badly hit if people go elsewhere.

No-one is perfect: but if you commit a crime while in a position of trust, you should face a stiffer sentence. Because you are not just commiting a crime, you are also betraying those who have trusted you, and relied on you!

davidessex · Post by **davidessex** » 12 Dec 2007, 17:53

there are thousands of people who have suffered injuries and illnesses up and down the country that HAVN,T gone on to steal .

davidessex · Post by **davidessex** » 12 Dec 2007, 17:56

No-one is perfect: but if you commit a crime while in a position of trust, you should face a stiffer sentence. Because you are not just commiting a crime, you are also betraying those who have trusted you, and relied on you![/quote]

unless your a politician or even a cwu leader !!!!!

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