Vaccine for Covid-19 would you take it?

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 22 Oct 2020, 22:34

Woody Guthrie wrote:The Internet is not a source for "The Truth".
It is as far as I'm aware created by people primarily as a source of entertainment.
For every opinion on there there's another opposite opinion.
You choose yourself who to believe and then search for more opinions that confirm that belief so in essence you're no better informed than when you started. It's called confirmation bias.

I'll ask again who specifically speaks the truth?

Depends who you chose to listen to but there is one thing we are not being told the whole truth about this virus and the media in this nation is suppressing the truth on government orders. You only need to do a web search over here for Covid 19 related items or do one with A VPN and you will get two different results.

Tman · Post by **Tman** » 23 Oct 2020, 08:19

k979aaa wrote: we are not being told the whole truth about this virus and the media in this nation is suppressing the truth on government orders.

What, all of it/them? Even the ones which are critical of the government for no other reason than that's their political stance?
Looks like it's break out the Bacofoil hat time.

emu72 · Post by **emu72** » 23 Oct 2020, 16:36

funny how the common cold has been round for thousands of years but no real cure so if they soon come out with a vaccine for this covid then thats very suspect.i personally would never have this vaccine but i feel that it will be forced on us whether we consent or not.however i can certainly see people queuing up for it because they want to get back to a normal life again.understandably but once you have it theres no going back.maybe these politicians should take it first.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 23 Oct 2020, 17:08

funny how the common cold has been round for thousands of years but no real cure

It's not really "funny" at all.

1.There are over two hundred different viruses and viral strains that cause the common cold. Every one would need a vaccine and you would need to take all 200 every year to try to stop yourself getting a cold.

2. It's completely harmless so why would you?

3. Vaccines are not "cures", they are preventative.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 23 Oct 2020, 23:02

Tman wrote:
k979aaa wrote: we are not being told the whole truth about this virus and the media in this nation is suppressing the truth on government orders.
What, all of it/them? Even the ones which are critical of the government for no other reason than that's their political stance?
Looks like it's break out the Bacofoil hat time.

Well I expected better of you Tman the government had moved very quickly to ban any searches of Covid 19 Hoax or any media saying it is a hoax or suggesting anything but official UK government policy. Bacofoil really not against 5G as it does no harm except make most of our jobs irrelevant in the coming age of automation!

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 23 Oct 2020, 23:13

Woody Guthrie wrote:
funny how the common cold has been round for thousands of years but no real cure
It's not really "funny" at all.

1.There are over two hundred different viruses and viral strains that cause the common cold. Every one would need a vaccine and you would need to take all 200 every year to try to stop yourself getting a cold.

2. It's completely harmless so why would you?

3. Vaccines are not "cures", they are preventative.

And the human race has overcome all these viruses/cold's and other things with out intervention of the state. One reason they use is to protect our NHS well that would be great but coming from a conservative party hellbent on dismantling it ready for sale to the USA heath taxation agencies. If they were really that concerned about them being overwhelmed they could have built more hospitals and staffed them and not let people die of treatable illness like cancer strokes heart attacks and mental health issues but oh no we must all hide away give up freedom and family and friends for a BLOODY COMMON COLD VIRUS!

emu72 · Post by **emu72** » 25 Oct 2020, 22:05

what about the tests that are coming back as positive for covid when someone has just sent them back without being used.these covid figures have been inflated and the media are using their platform to create all this fear and dread.meanwhile world economies are being destroyed,unemployment rising,no future for our children aswell as people suffering from depression and mental illness.is it all worth it?

RTP · Post by **RTP** » 27 Oct 2020, 17:13

367 deaths. Still a conspiracy ?

Wait until mid november when it's close to a thousand again.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 27 Oct 2020, 17:52

Rather than going up it would seem that the natural prevelance of antibodies in the general population is decreasing which kind of knocks the whole naturally acquired herd immunity theory on the head.

https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/207333/ ... and-react/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The latest report includes findings from three rounds of testing carried out over a three-month period. There were 17,576 positive results across all three rounds, around 30% of whom did not report any COVID-19 symptoms. After accounting for the accuracy of the test, confirmed by laboratory evaluation, and the country’s population characteristics, the study found that antibody prevalence declined from 6.0% to 4.8% and then 4.4% over the three months.

silver_fox · Post by **silver_fox** » 27 Oct 2020, 20:42

This study by imperial college. where that wonderfully accurate predictor Neil Ferguson is employed, is looking at antibodies only. It conveniently ignores T-cells which are a big part of the natural immune system and last years rather than months. Also funny how the bbc and other MSM had this has their number one news article this morning. It’s almost like an advert for a vaccine, and not just one vaccine, as the study suggest we will need constant boosters of the vaccine every 6 months. Can you really not see through all the manipulation and lies woody?

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 27 Oct 2020, 21:53

silver_fox wrote:This study by imperial college. where that wonderfully accurate predictor Neil Ferguson is employed, is looking at antibodies only. It conveniently ignores T-cells which are a big part of the natural immune system and last years rather than months.

It doesn't ignore T-cells, nobody is ignoring T-cells but immunologists don't obviously know as much about T-cell production as you do.

Prof Wendy Barclay, chair of influenza virology at Imperial College London and co-author of the report, said it was not yet known what level of antibody is needed to protect someone from infection or reinfection with Covid-19, but experiments suggested it could be around the same level as the antibody test’s threshold of detection.

Some have raised the possibility that other components of the immune system might continue to offer protection even if antibodies have waned – such as T-cells, which can kill infected cells, or B memory cells, which can rapidly produce new antibodies. However, the team said it is too soon to know if that is the case, or for how long that protection might last, while it is difficult to measure levels of such T-cells.

“The fact that people get reinfected regularly throughout their lives with seasonal coronaviruses [that cause some common colds] suggests that the immunity, whether or not it is antibody mediated and/or T-cell mediated, probably isn’t very long-lasting,” said Barclay, who added that the team suspect the body reacts to infection with the new coronavirus in a similar way.

shaun2urz · Post by **shaun2urz** » 27 Oct 2020, 22:23

RTP wrote:367 deaths

..............apparently

Post by **rambo1** » 27 Oct 2020, 22:26

emu72 wrote:what about the tests that are coming back as positive for covid when someone has just sent them back without being used.these covid figures have been inflated and the media are using their platform to create all this fear and dread.meanwhile world economies are being destroyed,unemployment rising,no future for our children aswell as people suffering from depression and mental illness.is it all worth it?

No. It's not (worth it). What's the world gonna do, keep shutting down every time there's a so called spike in cases. Incidentally, the cases only look fearfull because the govt want the media to portray that. 20k cases really isn't very many compared to April when, if testing was comparable to now, there would have been well over 100k cases daily. The deaths are only 8% of the deaths when in April it was peaking. The world economy can't keep shutting down for this. There will be no future for the young and old ( when peoples pension funds fail due to stock market crashes. It's just all gone a bit mad, they've gone down this road thinking it wasn't very far, and now it turns out it is but they've gone too far to turn back without admitting they were wrong.

Post by **aiden01** » 27 Oct 2020, 22:27

shaun2urz wrote:
RTP wrote:367 deaths
..............apparently

Wtf ask the families of the bereaved

Post by **rambo1** » 27 Oct 2020, 22:30

aiden01 wrote:
shaun2urz wrote:
RTP wrote:367 deaths
..............apparently
Wtf ask the families of the bereaved

I think he meant are they strictly from covid? Could it be they had another underlying condition that could have lead to death?

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