CWU.ORG : Members need honesty about Royal Mail sick pay, CWU warns management

Post by **POSTMAN** » 13 Oct 2020, 20:02

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The CWU is calling on Royal Mail to be “honest” over whether workers sharing vans will receive full sick pay if they are forced to self-isolate.

CWU Acting Assistant Secretary Carl Maden has demanded clarity from management after Royal Mail returned to van sharing practices on Monday.

The stance, which management insists is a purely voluntary role for workers who feel comfortable sharing vehicles, was opposed by the CWU.

CWU Acting Assistant Secretary Carl Maden said: “At a time when Covid-19 cases are increasing and further lock downs are in the pipeline, the CWU did not agree with van sharing.

“However, Royal Mail have gone ahead with it.”

“Therefore, I have asked Royal Mail to guarantee anyone who volunteers will have full sick pay.”

Carl pointed out a recent Royal Mail document sent to managers stated the provision of enhanced sick pay is “dependent on the absence not being caused by or aggravated by the employee”.

The document goes on to say: “Where, in the reasonable view of the company, there is evidence of an employee’s disregard for public health guidance which then leads to them needing to self-isolate, Royal Mail Sick Pay will not be paid.”

Furthermore, in a meeting last Friday which attended by five directors/senior managers, Carl asked them to confirm whether full sick pay would be paid to members forced to self-isolate after volunteering for van sharing roles.

He also asked them to release a communication explaining any circumstances where sick pay will not be paid.

At the time of writing, nothing has been received from Royal Mail.

Carl called on Royal Mail to publish a statement as soon as possible, so members can make informed decisions about volunteering in vans.

He said: “We want guaranteed full sick pay and assurances any absence will not count against you on an attendance review or consideration of dismissal”, and added the union also wants those guarantees applied to members working in Fleet services.

He added: “I am sure I will be accused of scaremongering.

“However, all Royal Mail have to do is publish a document which states clearly: if you have to self-isolate due to van sharing, full sick pay will be paid and the absence will not count against you within the attendance agreement or stipulate when sick pay will not be paid.

“This would be an honest position.”

Carl also reminded workers they are entitled to read risk assessments and safe systems of work, and managers are obliged to provide you with a copy if requested.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 13 Oct 2020, 20:10

I'm confused, the statement is said here...
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16Sept wrote:Where, in the reasonable view of the company, there is evidence of a colleague’s disregard for public health guidance, which then leads to them needing to self-isolate, Royal Mail sick pay will not be paid.

Loike yonks ago right? A month ago right, a f***ing month ago.

Mr Maden rides again! lol

Jumping on the van sharing s**t is embarrassing!
The most pointless cwu non news story ever!

Post by **Jahpostie** » 14 Oct 2020, 08:00

Cwu make a good point. You could have to self isolate several times. I was told you would only get full pay once. By volunteering to van share you are increasing your risk of catching covid and also of not getting paid. If they want us to van share they need to pay us if we have to self isolate. They can't have it both ways.

twoloops · Post by **twoloops** » 14 Oct 2020, 08:10

Would RM still pay DEATH IN SERVICE if it was your choice to van share?

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 14 Oct 2020, 13:03

Cwu make a good point.

No they don't.
The point should be the health and safety of our members not whether RM will pay sick pay.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 14 Oct 2020, 14:30

Jahpostie wrote:Cwu make a good point. You could have to self isolate several times. I was told you would only get full pay once. By volunteering to van share you are increasing your risk of catching covid and also of not getting paid. If they want us to van share they need to pay us if we have to self isolate. They can't have it both ways.

That is not correct about only being paid once. Van sharing has nothing to do with it, it's a red herring from someone who regularly makes mistakes and obviously feels he has to justify his wages.

Sick pay for more than one period of self-isolation.

wazer · Post by **wazer** » 14 Oct 2020, 17:07

Managers have not asked in our office. Totally agree we need to see any official doc before anybody can shares. Yes cwu don't want us to share. Glad to hear it. So wot they doing about it.

Acca Dacca · Post by **Acca Dacca** » 14 Oct 2020, 20:35

POSTMAN wrote:
Jahpostie wrote:Cwu make a good point. You could have to self isolate several times. I was told you would only get full pay once. By volunteering to van share you are increasing your risk of catching covid and also of not getting paid. If they want us to van share they need to pay us if we have to self isolate. They can't have it both ways.
That is not correct about only being paid once. Van sharing has nothing to do with it, it's a red herring from someone who regularly makes mistakes and obviously feels he has to justify his wages.

Sick pay for more than one period of self-isolation.

'' Yes. Provided that individuals are acting in line with the UK Government guidance''

Well the Government guidance is to maitain social distance and not to share vehicles.

So theres the issue