COVID-19 Poll have you had it?

Post by **aiden01** » 05 Sep 2020, 07:00

SpacePhoenix wrote:I think the first thing Boris will shut will be all pubs and bars. Seems to be a few outbreaks that can be traced back to pubs and bars

Hospital in northern ireland has had 3 patients die in past few days who were being treated for cancer afrer getting virus. over 50 staff off either with virus or self isolating so not really pubs or bars are to blame.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 05 Sep 2020, 07:58

aiden01 wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:I think the first thing Boris will shut will be all pubs and bars. Seems to be a few outbreaks that can be traced back to pubs and bars
Hospital in northern ireland has had 3 patients die in past few days who were being treated for cancer afrer getting virus. over 50 staff off either with virus or self isolating so not really pubs or bars are to blame.

That's not how lock down measures work though.
It's not just a case of finding the source of an outbreak it's also necessary to limit human contact within the area of the outbreak and then prioritising what you can and can't close to do that.

First they limit household interaction because that doesn't cost the economy much if anything.
If that doesn't work they close the bars and restaurants.
Then non essential shops.
Then the schools.
Then full lock down.

Or any combination or straight to full lock down depending on how bad it is.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 06 Sep 2020, 14:31

Woody Guthrie wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
SpacePhoenix wrote:I think the first thing Boris will shut will be all pubs and bars. Seems to be a few outbreaks that can be traced back to pubs and bars
Hospital in northern ireland has had 3 patients die in past few days who were being treated for cancer afrer getting virus. over 50 staff off either with virus or self isolating so not really pubs or bars are to blame.

That's not how lock down measures work though.
It's not just a case of finding the source of an outbreak it's also necessary to limit human contact within the area of the outbreak and then prioritising what you can and can't close to do that.

First they limit household interaction because that doesn't cost the economy much if anything.
If that doesn't work they close the bars and restaurants.
Then non essential shops.
Then the schools.
Then full lock down.

Or any combination or straight to full lock down depending on how bad it is.

What about Travel?

Janet Brum · Post by **Janet Brum** » 06 Sep 2020, 16:32

It`s very strange, just one person off this forum admitted he had covid...

I was confirmed with a PCR test swab 1

emu72 · Post by **emu72** » 06 Sep 2020, 16:59

biggiehud i know your always gonna get people saying.”of course its real.i know someone whos had it and/or died of it but i for one agree that its a scam.i haven’t heard anyone,like no one with even a bad cough and people need to distinguish between covid 19 and the flu.its funny how people label the likes of david icke and others as conspiracy theorists but thats a phrase used just to make these people look like nut jobs but listen to them.itll wake you up.the whole world needs to before its too late.the vaccine is coming and you know what? im betting you wont be allowed out of your house until youve been forced to have it.the second wave will come.the mainstream media will make sure they put fear into everyone.

Post by **aiden01** » 06 Sep 2020, 17:05

emu72 wrote:biggiehud i know your always gonna get people saying.”of course its real.i know someone whos had it and/or died of it but i for one agree that its a scam.i haven’t heard anyone,like no one with even a bad cough and people need to distinguish between covid 19 and the flu.its funny how people label the likes of david icke and others as conspiracy theorists but thats a phrase used just to make these people look like nut jobs but listen to them.itll wake you up.the whole world needs to before its too late.the vaccine is coming and you know what? im betting you wont be allowed out of your house until youve been forced to have it.the second wave will come.the mainstream media will make sure they put fear into everyone.

Try telling your story to some of the families whose relatives have sadly passed away an see if they think its a scam..

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 06 Sep 2020, 17:07

david icke and others as conspiracy theorists but thats a phrase used just to make these people look like nut jobs

David Ike believes that 7 foot shape shifting lizards control the world.
It's not us making David look like a nut job.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 08 Sep 2020, 23:01

Woody Guthrie wrote:
david icke and others as conspiracy theorists but thats a phrase used just to make these people look like nut jobs
David Ike believes that 7 foot shape shifting lizards control the world.
It's not us making David look like a nut job.

If you had said 6 foot orange men and 5 foot poison dwarfs you may have a point!

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 10 Sep 2020, 22:49

Well it seams the virus has been in the UK for a long time https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/09/grandad- ... -13244673/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; It could be the case most of us have had it already without even knowing it.

Caesar · Post by **Caesar** » 11 Sep 2020, 05:33

k979aaa wrote:Well it seams the virus has been in the UK for a long time https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/09/grandad- ... -13244673/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; It could be the case most of us have had it already without even knowing it.

It could also be the case that what's actually showing up on these tests isn't a deadly contagious virus but a natural reaction to a serious illness.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 11 Sep 2020, 06:36

Caesar wrote:
k979aaa wrote:Well it seams the virus has been in the UK for a long time https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/09/grandad- ... -13244673/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; It could be the case most of us have had it already without even knowing it.
It could also be the case that what's actually showing up on these tests isn't a deadly contagious virus but a natural reaction to a serious illness.

Your body doesn't create a viral strain as a natural reaction to a serious illness. Pneumonia itself is caused by an infection, that can be bacterial, virul or fungul.

If Covid-19 was found in his system it's likely since we know that it causes pneumonia in severe cases that's more than likely the cause of death in this case.

Caesar · Post by **Caesar** » 11 Sep 2020, 17:26

Woody Guthrie wrote: Your body doesn't create a viral strain as a natural reaction to a serious illness. Pneumonia itself is caused by an infection, that can be bacterial, virul or fungul.

As far as I'm aware the covid19 virus as yet as never been isolated. The whole idea that a virus is a cause of disease is still argued. It is also believed by some scientists that the human body contains millions if not trillions of virus's and we use them for all sorts of tasks including cleansing the body from toxins.
My point is that these tests may be showing an abundance of these virus's that are not causing the harm but trying to do there job of removing toxins from our cells.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 11 Sep 2020, 17:38

Caesar wrote:As far as I'm aware the covid19 virus as yet as never been isolated.

The Covid19 virus was isolated and genetically mapped way back in Feb/March in various labs all over the world.

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Caesar · Post by **Caesar** » 11 Sep 2020, 18:08

Apologies.
What I meant was that no virus as been isolated that as been proven to cause any harm.
By proven I mean passing the tests that the pioneering scientists came up with. The tests include isolating a virus and using the pure specimen to cause the symptoms in a healthy mammal.
I don't doubt that many specimens have been isolated but none of them have passed these tests, not even sars1.

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 12 Sep 2020, 18:07

Well I posted this two weeks ago nearly it does not seem we have a massive pandemic on our hands but we have a Covid-19 clock online here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMre6IAAAiU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; It does work of government data so take that with a pinch of salt. So more about data the GOV.UK site has this web page https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/cases" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; It has a map which you can zoom in to your area at street level. I feel it is best to make informed choices you can take these sites as you will make your own views about them, I for one don't think this whole thing has been worth the effort money time social imprisonment lack of heath care and total lack of educational needs of our children and crash the world economy for a virus for which Flu kills ten times more. Sorry to those who have lost someone through this pandemic but life goes on and so must we all you all only get one life and spending 1/140th of it not having a life sucks and we cannot eradicate this virus we will all have to live with it or die at some stage of it!

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