Job just gets better- Collections whilst on Delivery

[aiden01]

You got all that from my comment?

After you with the glue bag

Find me a job where someone without any formal qualifications can earn over a tenner an hour and have sick pay, holiday pay etc etc,and enjoy what they are doing.

Or somebody with formal qualifications. I myself studied and earned an M.Un. masters degree, a highly distinguished honor.

Surely being mnu supporter needs more than a degree lol

[cpsteve]

2 year postie wait till your 32 year postie you may wind your neck in by then idiot

And that sums up the RM your opinion means more if you are a long term worker and its ok to bully and abuse anyone who questions the status quo.

[aiden01]

You got all that from my comment?

After you with the glue bag

Im just really annoyed with people saying the job is rubbish, this is wrong, that is wrong etc. Find me a job where someone without any formal qualifications can earn over a tenner an hour and have sick pay, holiday pay etc etc,and enjoy what they are doing.

NO job is perfect, Every boss in the country want staff to do as much as possible, or at the very least work every hour that they get paid for.

Go and spend a week at Argos or Amazon and see how happy the staff they have are. Yes i know we should be aiming to 'be better' than them but to achieve that you need a successful profitable business to begin with.

You reckon amazon is a better place to work than rm nit according to alot of press reports about them

[Yamr1]

You got all that from my comment?

After you with the glue bag

Im just really annoyed with people saying the job is rubbish, this is wrong, that is wrong etc. Find me a job where someone without any formal qualifications can earn over a tenner an hour and have sick pay, holiday pay etc etc,and enjoy what they are doing.

NO job is perfect, Every boss in the country want staff to do as much as possible, or at the very least work every hour that they get paid for.

Go and spend a week at Argos or Amazon and see how happy the staff they have are. Yes i know we should be aiming to 'be better' than them but to achieve that you need a successful profitable business to begin with.

Well said

[rambo1]

Details here, there's another thread already running about this

No. 393/20

24th July 2020



Dear Colleagues,

Royal Mail and CWU National Joint Statement – Consumer Collections Pilot and National Deployment

Further to LTB 331/20 which was focused on introducing the training plan for the introduction of Consumer Collections, the Department have now concluded a National Joint Statement for the initial pilot and rollout of the service and product.

As Branches will no doubt be aware there is undoubtedly a demand from online retailers and marketplace sellers to have a doorstep collection service for returns and outbound parcels. This growth in the market is being targeted by Royal Mails competitors, and therefore in order that Royal Mail can compete in the parcels market there is a need to provide a doorstep collection service for customers.

Customers will be able to book a collection on the Tracked Returns Portal; via retailer’s websites; on the Click & Drop shipping system; or on Royal Mail’s app. These items will be collected by the delivery staff who are in the vicinity or attending sites for deliveries.

The Joint Statement issued in June 2020 – LTB 331/20 set out the training plan, as below:

• Work Place Coach (WPC) training sessions to commence on 6th July and finish by the 7th August 2020.

• WPCs to cascade training to frontline OPG’s from 13th July and conclude by 9th October 2020.

Part of the agreed training plan was on the basis that Customers will be able to book a collection on the Tracked Returns Portal; via retailer’s websites; on the Click & Drop shipping system; or on Royal Mail’s app. These items will be collected by OPG’s who are in the vicinity or attending sites for deliveries. The service will be limited to no more than 5 addresses per day/delivery route Monday – Saturday, and items restricted to a maximum of 20kg and size.

Pilot and National Deployment Plan

We have now Jointly agreed with Royal Mail the deployment approach and timescales which are outlined below: –

CWU and Royal Mail via the Local Joint Working Group jointly conduct a pilot in West of England Area over a 4-week period;

• Pilot in the Bristol Operations Manager area – 21st September to 2nd October;

• Expand pilot to the remaining units in the West of England Service Delivery Leader area – 5th October to 16th October.

• Targeted National Launch – 19th October

The Joint Statement reaffirms that Health & Safety is of paramount importance and that the necessary SSOW will be put in place and that all issues arising in this respect will be proper to the relevant RM safety experts and the CWU National Health & Safety Department.

In addition, Branches will note that the Joint Statement also confirms that Royal Mail and the CWU will jointly review progress against the set criteria during the pilot phase including a study involving Industrial Engineers in order to determine and establish the correct time identified for the tasks involved. All data/information generated from the deployment will be shared with the CWU at a National level to assist with further discussions regarding future revision activity and Resourcing to Workload, along with the accuracy of traffic forecasting.

We will also Jointly review the pilot in order to resolve any issues highlighted arising from it and in order to jointly confirm the roll out timescales for National deployment which is targeted to commence on the 19th October.

Any queries to the content of the above please contact the Outdoor Department reference 532, email address: outdoorsecretary@cwu.org.

Yours sincerely,



Mark Baulch

CWU Assistant Secretary

I ain't lifting 20kg off the floor. Bags are limited to 16kg, now they say it's ok to lift 20kg off someone's floor and carry it down their drive? Sorry no I'm not doing my back in for royal mail.

[SpacePhoenix]

I ain't lifting 20kg off the floor. Bags are limited to 16kg, now they say it's ok to lift 20kg off someone's floor and carry it down their drive? Sorry no I'm not doing my back in for royal mail.

I think they've forgotten that the weight limit for Tracked is 30Kg

[Janet Brum]

It`s 20 kg now, what`s over belongs to Parcel Force.

Of course RM didn`t inform us, I found out from a colleague and double checked on RM`s website.

https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app ... il/a_id/89" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[postieblueshirt]

All this argument is pointless at the moment are we a parcel company?then this new pick up thing is fine....are we a letter company?then this parcel pick up is a pain....here's the problem where both change us one way or the other till then we will still be Jack of all trades master of f*** all

[blacov]

We either adapt, or die. You may end up with five to do; you'll more likely end up with none some of the time. It's a service virtually every other courier offer, we have no option but do the same. We can continue to cry about the fact post is dying, or attempt to minimise the impact by raising revenue elsewhere. If you have to leave a loop for five extra collections, take it from me, collections are easier than pounding the beat.

I agree 100% with you. Problem we have is the way RM is managed. We were offer shorter working week but seems like we are added work and delivery time is shrinking. There is an urgent need of walks revision nationwide. I mean if they want to offer what other couriers do they need to come up with a different duties times. Some duties in Parcelforce for example pay SA. They are all basic 38h but some require 1 or 2h SA. If they will do the same at Royal Mail we may be saved. Obviously if some of the older workforce is not happy about it this is another problem. Majority younger posties will be very happy to accept a duty that pays a couple of SA hours daily. Especially that I believe ghost OT is going to go sooner or later and is not always guaranteed. I would love to get 2h SA duty and I am sure on a quiet day I could be able to slash some of the time maybe or take it easy and still complete on time.

[SpacePhoenix]

It`s 20 kg now, what`s over belongs to Parcel Force.

Of course RM didn`t inform us, I found out from a colleague and double checked on RM`s website.

https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app ... il/a_id/89" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nope, still 30Kg

https://www.royalmail.com/business/shipping/uk-services" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

End-to-end tracking
Royal Mail Tracked 24 and 48
Track from posting to delivery
Max 30kg*
Delivery aim 1-2 days

[Janet Brum]

Strange, why is 2 different weights on RM website?

[SpacePhoenix]

Strange, why is 2 different weights on RM website?

I reckon the 30Kg one is probably the right one. I'm not sure if non-business customers even have access to Tracked now, even via click and drop

[panzer4]

It`s 20 kg now, what`s over belongs to Parcel Force.

Of course RM didn`t inform us, I found out from a colleague and double checked on RM`s website.

https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app ... il/a_id/89" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nope, still 30Kg

https://www.royalmail.com/business/shipping/uk-services" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

End-to-end tracking
Royal Mail Tracked 24 and 48
Track from posting to delivery
Max 30kg*
Delivery aim 1-2 days

I had a parcel on my rural round 26.2kg printed on side asked DOM about it replied TOUGH

[P13]

It`s 20 kg now, what`s over belongs to Parcel Force.

Of course RM didn`t inform us, I found out from a colleague and double checked on RM`s website.

https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app ... il/a_id/89" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Nope, still 30Kg

https://www.royalmail.com/business/shipping/uk-services" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

End-to-end tracking
Royal Mail Tracked 24 and 48
Track from posting to delivery
Max 30kg*
Delivery aim 1-2 days

I had a parcel on my rural round 26.2kg printed on side asked DOM about it replied TOUGH

There should be a sack trolley in your office

[2yearpostie]

2 year postie wait till your 32 year postie you may wind your neck in by then idiot

Why am i an idiot for telling the truth of how it is going to be? People want parcels delivering and collecting more now than they want a letter. Get used to it or find another job which makes you happier because the past you are hankering after has gone.