Christmas week hours

[anon]

In our mail centre on nights we have the Monday night off. But we have to pay back the hours by either working a Sunday night, Boxing day night or 12 hours on Thurs and Friday.
Does anyone else have a management that is as mean to them!
I know of at least one office where they are giving the monday off and writing the hours off.
We thought clawback was finished, but its back in a different form.
When will RM realise that the good will created by giving one day off and not seeking to claw back the hours would go some way to repairing feeling after the strike.

[Zorro]

Bristol Mail Centre, Night Shift:

5 Night Duty

w/c Mon 17th Dec normal week

w/c Mon 24th Dec - off
Tues 25rd - off
Weds 26th - off
Thurs 27th Dec return to work (normal hours)

*****

4 Night Duty (Monday start)

w/c Mon 17th Dec normal week

w/c Mon 24th Dec - off
Tues 25rd - off
Weds 26th - off
Thurs 27th Dec return to work (normal hours)

*****

4 Night Duty (Tuesday start)

w/c Mon 17th Dec normal week

w/c Mon 24th Dec - off
Tues 25rd - off
Weds 26th - off
Thurs 27th Dec return to work (normal hours)


No clawback, no loss of holiday.

Boxing Day night is staffed by volunteers and sunday night SA Duties.

*****



I think you need to register a stage 1 disagreement!

[Fluke]

Our Monday night starters wont be back at work until Wednesday. After midnight on Monday its a bank holiday, so if anything RM can only try and get back 2 hours and as far as I know claw back has never been agreed by the CWU, so they can go and feck themselves. Is this the first tried they have tried this? If so why aren't your reps going into a stage disagreement and pushing for custom and practice?

[evilc]

Arrangements
Mainly affecting Night Shift Workers
Dear Members

We have received confirmation from CWU HQ that there will be no clawback of hours for attendances over the Christmas and New Year week. The following paragraphs have been taken directly from a letter to us from CWU HQ. We now hope to meet with management ASAP and draw a line under this matter.

Unfortunately however the day before the Union received the Agreement Representatives were contacting Union Headquarters regarding proposals they had received Locally for Clawback of hours following unagreed advice purported to have been given by Dale Lang and Glyn Rees.  In view of this and the confusion this misleading advice was causing we requested a meeting with Gillian Alford, Head of Industrial Relations and Dale Lang, IR Manager last night to seek an explanation and clarify the position.  
 
It was pointed out to the business that the advice that had been circulated was in direct conflict with the National Agreement established in 2004 on clawback and the terms of the National Agreement for Christmas 2007 which had been sent to the Union that very morning in particular Paragraphs 2.1 and 5.  We made it clear to the business that the Union would not accept the business backtracking on National Agreements and sought their confirmation that they would honour the terms in full.  After a lengthy discussion the Head of Industrial Relations did finally give us her assurance that the terms of the Agreement would not be abrogated by the business.

[stephen500]

LTB 1067/07 - Christmas and New Year Arrangements 2007/08
05 December 2007


Issuing officer(s): Martin Collins, Bob Gibson, Terry Pullinger, Ray Ellis

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No. 1067/07
Ref: L.645.01(h)
Date: 5th December 2007




TO: ALL BRANCHES WITH POSTAL MEMBERS

For immediate circulation to all appropriate Area/Unit Representatives

Postal Divisional Representatives



Dear Colleague



Christmas and New Year Arrangements 2007/08



Please find attached for your information a copy of the National Agreement for Christmas and New Year Arrangements for the 2007/08 period, Planning Summary and Pay Timetable. The Union only finally received confirmation of the Agreement yesterday despite the fact that we wrote to the business 10 days ago requesting that they needed to urgently advise us of any changes they wished to make for this year to the agreed standard terms. It will be noted that apart from the normal calendar changes it is identical to the 2006 Agreement and those agreed in 2005.



Unfortunately however the day before the Union received the Agreement Representatives were contacting Union Headquarters regarding proposals they had received Locally for Clawback of hours following unagreed advice purported to have been given by Dale Lang and Glyn Rees. In view of this and the confusion this misleading advice was causing we requested a meeting with Gillian Alford, Head of Industrial Relations and Dale Lang, IR Manager last night to seek an explanation and clarify the position.



It was pointed out to the business that the advice that had been circulated was in direct conflict with the National Agreement established in 2004 on clawback and the terms of the National Agreement for Christmas 2007 which had been sent to the Union that very morning in particular Paragraphs 2.1 and 5. We made it clear to the business that the Union would not accept the business backtracking on National Agreements and sought their confirmation that they would honour the terms in full. After a lengthy discussion the Head of Industrial Relations did finally give us her assurance that the terms of the Agreement would not be abrogated by the business.



Branches should therefore ensure that local negotiations proceed and are concluded in line with the terms of the attached National Agreement and the principals/Local Agreements that have been applied since 2004. Any Executive Action proposed in respect of implementing staffing arrangements that conflict with the National Agreement e.g. compulsory movement of rest days, enforced Annual Leave etc should be progressed through the IR Framework. The status quo being the operational/attendance arrangements that applied for the Christmas and New Year period 2006/07.



Any enquiries on the above should be directed to the appropriate Occupational Officer.



Yours sincerely





Bob Gibson Martin Collins Terry Pullinger Ray Ellis

Ass Secretary Ass Secretary Ass Secretary Ass Secretary



Christmas Arrangements 2007



1. Introduction



This document sets out the arrangements for Christmas 2007and New Year 2008 based on the principles agreed for recent yeas. Robust staffing arrangements will be required during the Christmas period to ensure operational needs are covered in line with workload forecasts while taking into account the aspirations of employees. The agreement applies to OPG and OSG, Processing Engineering grades who are scheduled to shift working (fixed or rotating excluding fixed day jobs) together with those LAs whose current conditioned hours attract assigned shift allowances.



2. Attendances



2.1 Throughout the Christmas and New Year Period, rest days will apply in line

with normal year round arrangements. Attendances may be varied by local agreement to take account of workload forecasts and service requirements. People who volunteer to work their normal rest day, or are required to work an additional attendance on a Bank Holiday, will be paid as overtime or credited a day’s holiday in lieu. When someone’s rest day falls on a Bank Holiday, they will receive an additional day’s holiday in lieu. (including people working a week off in six)



2.2 The detailed scheduling of these arrangements will be subject to negotiation at local level.



2.3 Weekend duty holders will have separate scheduling arrangements based on the same principles adopted in 2006.



2.4 Any additional days of holiday arising from these arrangements will be taken by 15 March 2008.



3. Christmas Bonus Supplement



The Christmas bonus supplement will be £100 for full time OPG and OSGs (pro-rated for part timers). The eligibility criteria for the Christmas bonus payment will be the same as last year, based on the four December weeks and with same abatement criteria for industrial action as used previously, drawn from the PBS agreement. Payments in 2006 will be made on Friday 21 December.



4. Scheduled Attendance



Scheduled attendance rates can be paid for pre-scheduled overtime worked during the Christmas period but these will not attract paid meal breaks.



5. Local Negotiations



In order to secure sufficient and reliable staffing and so deliver quality services to our customers throughout the Christmas period, local negotiations will consider the following options:



- People to work their normal rest day in return for a day in lieu or scheduled attendance/overtime.



- Pre-scheduling hours against forecast workload.



- Scheduled attendance or pressure overtime.



- Use of temporary / casual staff to supplement other resource.



Local negotiations will ensure that everyone has a fair and manageable workload.



6. Pay arrangements



Revised pay arrangements are attached. The improved systems now in place for processing overtime claims means there is no longer any need for advances in overtime pay.





………………………………….. …………………………..

Mike Eady Royal Mail Letters Martin Collins, CWU



…………………………..

Bob Gibson, CWU



…………………………..

Terry Pullinger, CWU



…………………………..

Ray Ellis, CWU



November 2007

[Stormproof]

Anyone know what time Callers Offices will be shutting Xmas/New Years Eve?? Ours is open 7am til 7pm, I don't fancy working till 7pm on either of those days. I'm hoping that we will be on Saturday hours 7 til 12.30, no one at my place seems to know.

[DGP1]

Anyone know what time Callers Offices will be shutting Xmas/New Years Eve?? Ours is open 7am til 7pm, I don't fancy working till 7pm on either of those days. I'm hoping that we will be on Saturday hours 7 til 12.30, no one at my place seems to know.

It's usually Saturday hours on Christmas Eve in my office

[Oldham]

Oldham Night Shift 5 day nights Manager says you can work the Sunday and have Boxing day night off if a THERE ARE ENOUGH VOLUNTEERS FOR BOXING DAY. If too many want boxing day off it will go to a draw of the shift as to who has to attend. Also the manager says we will not be paid OT OR SA for the attendance after midnight on the 26th is this right that they can get away with this. I look forward to your replies collegues.

[Cheapy]

IT'S THE SAME IN CANTERBURY, YOU CAN DO SUNDAY OR GO INTO THE HAT TO TRY AND GET BOXING DAY OFF, IF YOU DON'T GET PULLED OUT YOU HAVE TO WORK BOXING NIGHT. I'M PRETTY SURE THEY'RE TRYING TO RAILROAD THIS THROUGH AS I SEE NO NEW AGREEMENT TO SUPERCEDE THE ONE OF 2004. THE REP WE HAD ON NIGHTS HAS STEPPED DOWN SO NOT SURE WHERE WE STAND.
TO BE HONEST IT'S ANOTHER ROYAL MAIL FIASCO, I'VE MADE PLANS, AS HAVE MOST PEOPLE BASED ON US HAVING THE NIGHT OFF PREVIOUSLY, I FIND IT A JOKE THAT TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE NIGHT I HAVE NO IDEA WETHER I'LL BE WORKING.

[Oldham]

Our rep is after allot of badgering going to lodge disagreement as the manager says that not enough volunteers have come forward so everybody is in, we'll see about that !