Van Sharing

[scoobydo79]

Van sharing is no more risky then going to the shops it never has been now we have to wear face coverings so why not share vans using them

For the hundredth time legal liability.....

Surely Tesco Waitrose and numerous other private companies I've seen 2 in a van without even any PPE have the same liability?

Quite probably but Tesco and Waitrose won't pay RM's legal bills/fines/compensation for not ensuring their employees safety will they?

What I'm saying is that in my opinion there's more behind the companies decision to not van share than legal liability. If they really wanted/needed to I'm sure they would find a way £££

Thank You Joe.RM don’t give a F about what goes on in offices at the moment regarding Covid but are bat s**t crazy about letting any one van share !!! Why? You get it I get it.

[Acca Dacca]

Van sharing is no more risky then going to the shops it never has been now we have to wear face coverings so why not share vans using them

You can go to the shops and choose to keep more than a metre apart from anyone else - in fact you are supposed to

You cant do that in a van

If RM imposed van sharing again - they would be telling their employees that they must do their job while not maintaining social distancing even though there are measures in place to make sure we can social distance already.

If someone, who has been doing the job while not van sharing and also making sure to keep their distance from colleagues, caught the virus due to RM essentially forcing them to do the opposite, knowing there is an increased risk.......

That opens a can of worms.

[postieblueshirt]

They also don't give a f if people are van sharing it's not hard to tell when 2 PDAs are travelling in the same van at the same time...blind eye time

[korky]

They also don't give a f if people are van sharing it's not hard to tell when 2 PDAs are travelling in the same van at the same time...blind eye time

not necessarily van sharing, i refill my next bag and leave pda in van with it ready for next loop,
simple logistics that is too complex for anyone above our own pay-grade

[postieblueshirt]

They also don't give a f if people are van sharing it's not hard to tell when 2 PDAs are travelling in the same van at the same time...blind eye time

not necessarily van sharing, i refill my next bag and leave pda in van with it ready for next loop,
simple logistics that is too complex for anyone above our own pay-grade

Ok you could say that but most van shares will meet out of sight around corner from office and the PDAs will meet up and be together.its going on everywhere they know it of course they do..

[Grumpyoldmailman]

Van sharing wouldn’t even work up at ours at the moment even if it was allowed. You wouldn’t get 2 duty’s into most of the vans. Some of the oversize have got ridiculously big in the last month.

[cpsteve]

for the umpteenth time when are these rsoles still van sharing goin to realise its not them that it will hit badly but possibly vulnerable people in there families that they are in contact with thick twattts

So everyone who gets in a car as a passenger is an ###### take a good look around and you will see lots off cars with two or more people are you telling us you wont let anyone be a passenger in your car.

[matthew68]

Well our manager drives guys with hct to there starting point, no one seems to be bothered by that

[Woody Guthrie]

for the umpteenth time when are these rsoles still van sharing goin to realise its not them that it will hit badly but possibly vulnerable people in there families that they are in contact with thick twattts

So everyone who gets in a car as a passenger is an ###### take a good look around and you will see lots off cars with two or more people are you telling us you wont let anyone be a passenger in your car.

For the millionth time stop comparing apples with oranges.

What you do voluntarily in someone else's vehicle is your business, what the business forces us to do is another, what members do when they ignore company policy and government guidance of course makes them arseholes. What else would you call them?

[citypostie]

Well Terry said today they are discussing about getting back to normal including van shares as soon as possible so probably won't be long

[Woody Guthrie]

Well Terry said today they are discussing about getting back to normal including van shares as soon as possible so probably won't be long

He mentioned exploring safe ways to return to van sharing, I wouldn't hold your breath. Actually you might have to.

The business faces a huge task convincing members that something that isn't considered safe now suddenly will be.

[cpsteve]

for the umpteenth time when are these rsoles still van sharing goin to realise its not them that it will hit badly but possibly vulnerable people in there families that they are in contact with thick twattts

So everyone who gets in a car as a passenger is an ###### take a good look around and you will see lots off cars with two or more people are you telling us you wont let anyone be a passenger in your car.

For the millionth time stop comparing apples with oranges.

What you do voluntarily in someone else's vehicle is your business, what the business forces us to do is another, what members do when they ignore company policy and government guidance of course makes them arseholes. What else would you call them?

The only people being forced to do anything are the ones who by choice want to van share thats up to the company as you say, if people dont want to share they dont have to so why do they want to force others to do what they do. I would say most people who are against van share are against it because they prefer to work alone as with most things RM its about getting finished earlier anything for an easier day. This is not aimed at you you are doing nothing wrong its an observation/generalisation on posties i work with, i drive different vans all the time and the same people who are so against van share are happy to drive vans with bald tyres and other faults.

[priority102]

For those who are pulling every string possible to be able to ignore the rules and van share..... 1. It has been BANNED NATIONALLY. 2. Anyone caught doing van sharing will be subject to disciplinary action. 3. Likewise for any DOM attempting to bypass national rules. 4. When you are out on delivery you have absolutely no idea who is driving past you in cars, sitting watching you (possibly taking photographic evidence), watching from house windows. 5. Thousands of members of the public (outside of RM) will be fully aware that we cannot van share, through either being related to someone who works for RM / knows someone etc etc. WHY HAND IT ON A PLATE TO GET YOURSELF SACKED, LOSS OF INCOME, PENSION ETC?????????

[Celgar]

Van sharing isn't allowed in RM at the moment. We read 'between the lines' our end that RM do not want to go back to van sharing. I don't bother watching the TP videos now as he gives little detail of what is going on behind the scenes. Probably keeping van share will be a way to preserve jobs in the long run so this is why he wants to see it return once or if the virus is defeated. I don't know of a single postie who likes the idea of van share.

[wazer]

I've seen loads of different company's sharing vehicles. Driving Instructures don't even have to wear masks ( check gov rules). When I asked my boss why we r still struggling and not sharing vans all he said it was down to the union, not RM. So who's bullshitting