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chillo
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Post by chillo »

Any future shielding for myself (clinically vulnerable) and probably quite a few employees is likely to be on nil pay, why does Royalmail link your sickleave entitlement to shielding which is entirely different ?
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Post by Decky Boy »

You say "likely" ? So is your post based on hearsay or your imaginings... or is it knowledge based and going to be reality ???
Looks like "Fake News" to me. Why Post such nonsense ???
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

Decky Boy wrote:You say "likely" ? So is your post based on hearsay or your imaginings... or is it knowledge based and going to be reality ???
Looks like "Fake News" to me. Why Post such nonsense ???
Since the government is flipping out over the risk of a resurgence or second wave or whatever they're calling it today the possibility of a return to shielding for clinically vulnerable people is entirely plausible and hardly fake news.

If you can't post anything constructive why post such nonsense?
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Post by chillo »

Look at what is occurring in parts of the country why make uninformed comment "think a bit more"
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

I think if there is a major resurgence over the winter the government will probably step in with a version of furlough designed specifically for the high risk clinically vulnerable group.
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Post by PostmanBitesDog »

Decky Boy wrote:You say "likely" ? So is your post based on hearsay or your imaginings... or is it knowledge based and going to be reality ???
Looks like "Fake News" to me. Why Post such nonsense ???
Oh, for the love of God. :roll:
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Post by koolishy67 »

I don't think this virus is going anywhere atlest few years wave is going to be up and down
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Post by aiden01 »

koolishy67 wrote:I don't think this virus is going anywhere atlest few years wave is going to be up and down
I was called a nice name when i posted something similar a few months ago but i totally agree with your post.
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Post by aiden01 »

Decky Boy wrote:You say "likely" ? So is your post based on hearsay or your imaginings... or is it knowledge based and going to be reality ???
Looks like "Fake News" to me. Why Post such nonsense ???
Probably based on scientific advice which is emerging daily or maybe you only like (fake news) any chance your a trump supporter :hmmmm
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Post by Decky Boy »

aiden01 wrote:
Decky Boy wrote:You say "likely" ? So is your post based on hearsay or your imaginings... or is it knowledge based and going to be reality ???
Looks like "Fake News" to me. Why Post such nonsense ???
Probably based on scientific advice which is emerging daily or maybe you only like (fake news) any chance your a trump supporter :hmmmm
It's the assumption that those " shielding" will not recieve pay from Royal Mail that I have taken issue with. The virus ain't going anywhere anytime fast. We all know how to limit transmission yet many out there are throwing caution to the wind and playing fast and loose with hand hygiene and social distancing. Let's call them " dafties" because that's what they are !
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

Decky Boy wrote:
aiden01 wrote:
Decky Boy wrote:You say "likely" ? So is your post based on hearsay or your imaginings... or is it knowledge based and going to be reality ???
Looks like "Fake News" to me. Why Post such nonsense ???
Probably based on scientific advice which is emerging daily or maybe you only like (fake news) any chance your a trump supporter :hmmmm
It's the assumption that those " shielding" will not recieve pay from Royal Mail that I have taken issue with.
The assumption is based on logic.
The normal rules on sick pay apply.
It isn't unlimited.
After already going through 14 weeks of shielding many members may start to run out of sick pay entitlement soon or already have.
As far as I'm aware those in the first year of their employment had their sick pay entitlement withdrawn yesterday.

Even without a change in policy if there is another prolonged period of shielding the scenario where some extremely vulnerable members end up on nil pay is inevitable and I would be surprised if it hasn't happened already.
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

Woody Guthrie wrote:
Even without a change in policy if there is another prolonged period of shielding the scenario where some extremely vulnerable members end up on nil pay is inevitable and I would be surprised if it hasn't happened already.
From reading around the news sites it looks like shielding could be going to return quite soon but in a slightly different form
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Post by PostmanBitesDog »

Decky Boy wrote:The virus ain't going anywhere anytime fast. We all know how to limit transmission yet many out there are throwing caution to the wind and playing fast and loose with hand hygiene and social distancing. Let's call them " dafties" because that's what they are !
Now that sentence I definitely agree with. Our office has done away with social distancing, masks and hand sanitizer. Our managers are dafties there, too.

Sky News (July 31, 2020): Coronavirus: The Rising Infectious Hotspots in England...



At least the Scottish government are taking precautions more seriously. They've advised the Scottish public to avoid visiting parts of England. On the other hand, the Scottish have been warned to avoid all of England for centuries. :wink:

And what the hell is this? Daily Mail (August 2, 2020) ~ Millions of Over 50s Could be Told to Stay at Home to Avoid a Blanket Second Lockdown Under 'Nuclear Plans' Drawn up by Boris Johnson After Bubble Bursts on Easing Lockdown

One more thing. Why are American travelers allowed to enter the United Kingdom (while UK travelers to the U.S. are mostly barred) but American travelers planning to fly directly to European Union nations are banned? American travelers are now using a loophole to enter the E.U. by changing planes at Heathrow and flying from London to their EU destination. Once again, the Johnson administration is a pathetic circus.
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Post by PostmanBitesDog »

aiden01 wrote:
Decky Boy wrote:You say "likely" ? So is your post based on hearsay or your imaginings... or is it knowledge based and going to be reality ???
Looks like "Fake News" to me. Why Post such nonsense ???
any chance you're a trump supporter :hmmmm
No, Decky Boy isn't a MAGAt. :Very Happy I mean, Trump supporters are dangerous sociopaths. Like this guy in Florida (filmed yesterday):


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Post by Pathfinder »

We'll probably be seeing trump for 4 more years, batten down the hatches :nana