Reader might find this VERY interesting.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... 20_JOJ.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Our esteemed employers persist in defending and appealing the indefensible. They have repeatedly and wilfully broken the law yet feel that it does not apply to them.
The throw (RM) shareholders’ funds at the court cases. Eventually it would have been cheaper to obey the Regulations.
Shades of the Post Office Horizon scandal.
I believe that there is yet another case due to be heard at Leeds ET in the Autumn. Let’s see if RM/Angard put up the same spurious arguments and lose yet again.
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pleb
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So are RM/angard any nearer being forced to pay any of their compensation(s) ?
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POSTMAN
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All started here yes?...
https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 47&t=92192" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I tried to read the judgment but got lost halfway thorough, agency worker yes/no, permanent yes/no, awr yes/no, what in lamens terms was it all about and what was the outcome.
https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 47&t=92192" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I tried to read the judgment but got lost halfway thorough, agency worker yes/no, permanent yes/no, awr yes/no, what in lamens terms was it all about and what was the outcome.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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SpacePhoenix
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I just had a quick flick through. They could have done with adding a overall summary at the endPOSTMAN wrote:All started here yes?...
https://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communi ... 47&t=92192" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I tried to read the judgment but got lost halfway thorough, agency worker yes/no, permanent yes/no, awr yes/no, what in lamens terms was it all about and what was the outcome.
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POSTMAN
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Angard & Royal Mail Lose on Appeal
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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rastignac
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Angard & Royal Mail Lose on Appeal
In layman's terms the judgement disposes of any attempt by RM/Angard to assert that Angard staff are not covered by AWR.
Essentially it's the legal reasoning that underlies plain common sense.
The judgement is also very useful in the analysis of the respondent cross appeal and the abuse of process issue that RM/Angard are potentially exposed to in future ( as long as an ET Claimant pleads the issue correctly at first instance )
Essentially it's the legal reasoning that underlies plain common sense.
The judgement is also very useful in the analysis of the respondent cross appeal and the abuse of process issue that RM/Angard are potentially exposed to in future ( as long as an ET Claimant pleads the issue correctly at first instance )
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rastignac
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It may also be useful to refer to the previous judgement from July 2019 in the long-running legal spat between Kocur and RM/Angard
that can be found at https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2019/1185.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
that can be found at https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2019/1185.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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SpacePhoenix
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I wonder if RM will go back to having them as casuals and not agency, resourced by the local resource units. It would help if say a mech trained casual is needed, managers could get them in and not chance that person not being supplied by Angard
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NW11851
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That is a certain route back to nepotism