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Deliberately leaving in walks to cut down on overtime

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HTPostman
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Deliberately leaving in walks to cut down on overtime

Post by HTPostman »

I’m never sure what the process is for failing walks, does anyone else know? On a morning, the manager or line manager goes round with his tablet making a note of which walks have been failed. Who is this reported to? Area manager then the regulator? What are the repercussions?
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.

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HTPostman wrote:I’m never sure what the process is for failing walks, does anyone else know? On a morning, the manager or line manager goes round with his tablet making a note of which walks have been failed. Who is this reported to? Area manager then the regulator? What are the repercussions?
Area manager, your dom has to report how many items on each walk have failed (count each letter) this is then passed further up above area manager, regulator not imposing fines at the moment which is why we are allowed to do it. Each office is allowed to fail 5% to get under budget, they must not spend any more than they did this time last year.
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For those of you that dont your office budget is set from last year. Each week they look at how much your office spent to get the mail out, inc leave and sickness.Lets say it took 2000 hours for the whole office inc leave/absence and overtime Then the same week this year is set at that -3%, thats why your overtime gets shaved off and where lapsing comes from to save hours as any Dom not complying gets conducted from above.
Pathfinder
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Post by Pathfinder »

I do think it's disgusting, customers paying for 1st class mail and its staying in frames for (sometimes days).
Woody Guthrie
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Post by Woody Guthrie »

Pathfinder wrote:I do think it's disgusting, customers paying for 1st class mail and its staying in frames for (sometimes days).
Not that many people really expect or care whether a letter takes 1 day or 2-3 days.
They care far more when they are getting their new Adidas trainers.
Only dead fish follow the current
robbertwhitton
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Post by robbertwhitton »

2yearpostie wrote:For those of you that dont your office budget is set from last year. Each week they look at how much your office spent to get the mail out, inc leave and sickness.Lets say it took 2000 hours for the whole office inc leave/absence and overtime Then the same week this year is set at that -3%, thats why your overtime gets shaved off and where lapsing comes from to save hours as any Dom not complying gets conducted from above.
I’m not convinced that Doms get conducted from above after reading the posts on here,as much overtime as you want,seems to be the norm,I take it they get conducted for mail left day after day,and the log off times on the pda not adding up??
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robbertwhitton wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:For those of you that dont your office budget is set from last year. Each week they look at how much your office spent to get the mail out, inc leave and sickness.Lets say it took 2000 hours for the whole office inc leave/absence and overtime Then the same week this year is set at that -3%, thats why your overtime gets shaved off and where lapsing comes from to save hours as any Dom not complying gets conducted from above.
I’m not convinced that Doms get conducted from above after reading the posts on here,as much overtime as you want,seems to be the norm,I take it they get conducted for mail left day after day,and the log off times on the pda not adding up??
At the moment they are being told to leave the mail.
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Post by A2B »

2yearpostie wrote:
HTPostman wrote:I’m never sure what the process is for failing walks, does anyone else know? On a morning, the manager or line manager goes round with his tablet making a note of which walks have been failed. Who is this reported to? Area manager then the regulator? What are the repercussions?
Area manager, your dom has to report how many items on each walk have failed (count each letter) this is then passed further up above area manager, regulator not imposing fines at the moment which is why we are allowed to do it. Each office is allowed to fail 5% to get under budget, they must not spend any more than they did this time last year.
There's not enough hours in the day to count every letter and parcel left behind in our office and we have all the overtime you need to book, i can safely say the budget has been thrown out the window.
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Post by SpacePhoenix »

A2B wrote:
2yearpostie wrote:
HTPostman wrote:I’m never sure what the process is for failing walks, does anyone else know? On a morning, the manager or line manager goes round with his tablet making a note of which walks have been failed. Who is this reported to? Area manager then the regulator? What are the repercussions?
Area manager, your dom has to report how many items on each walk have failed (count each letter) this is then passed further up above area manager, regulator not imposing fines at the moment which is why we are allowed to do it. Each office is allowed to fail 5% to get under budget, they must not spend any more than they did this time last year.
There's not enough hours in the day to count every letter and parcel left behind in our office and we have all the overtime you need to book, i can safely say the budget has been thrown out the window.
More likely they just count the total fill of every container for a give mail stream and just multiply that by the ACF
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Post by daveyeff »

ACF is about 250-300 i think.