2 IN A VAN AGAIN?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » 26 Jun 2020, 21:09

glass joe wrote:Well Van Partner driver would still take large parcels on my side of the frame.

No wonder you want to keep using HCT then.
Things are going to change and it won't be the way we want to do things, it will be business driven.

glass joe · Post by **glass joe** » 26 Jun 2020, 21:11

yeah he loves it as well as he's finishing 2 hours early everyday.

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » 26 Jun 2020, 21:14

glass joe wrote:yeah he loves it as well as he's finishing 2 hours early everyday.

Still love it when those 2 hours get filled with other work you reckon?

PostmanBitesDog · Post by **PostmanBitesDog** » 26 Jun 2020, 21:16

citypostie wrote:It's a bit like the people who are enjoying their furlough time so keep saying it's too soon and dangerous to go back to work.

Maybe it is too soon.

The Mirror (June 26, 2020) - UK Coronavirus Deaths Rise by 186 to 43,414 - Highest Daily Increase in 10 Days

"Including deaths from suspected cases of the disease, Britain's toll is over 54,000 - as Downing Street warns Brits the lockdown could be tightened again if social distancing rules aren't followed."

glass joe · Post by **glass joe** » 26 Jun 2020, 21:23

Cucumber wrote:
glass joe wrote:yeah he loves it as well as he's finishing 2 hours early everyday.
Still love it when those 2 hours get filled with other work you reckon?

Nope, this is the honey moon period

SierraOscarBravo · Post by **SierraOscarBravo** » 27 Jun 2020, 00:17

HA1 wrote:Van shares will come back in with the people wearing masks

Supposing van shares were reintroduced at some point on condition that both driver and passenger wear masks while in the van, how on earth would this be enforced?

Masks are available now, yet almost nobody avails of them or of the other PPE such as disposable gloves. Token gestures of social distancing are made, yet not enforced.

As ever, people rush around like idiots just to try and finish early yet these same individuals will whinge like spoilt brats if they have to work all of their paid hours on heavier days.

I suspect a lot of these corner cutters would take a mask and loop it under their chin and even cover their nose and mouth until they are out of sight of the DO, then they would be tossed aside for the rest of the delivery only worn briefly as they re-enter the yard at the end of the shift.

So knowing that this would happen with all the risks of van share, it would put the business in a very tricky position legally. People can choose to have a driving lesson and consent to the risks. For an employer to instruct us to van share is a different matter entirely and leaves them potentially exposed to an avalanche of legal challenges in the future.

In the current circumstances, there is no way van shares will be brought back. Indeed, more than likely it is gone forever.

Route1 · Post by **Route1** » 27 Jun 2020, 01:13

SierraOscarBravo wrote:
Supposing van shares were reintroduced at some point on condition that both driver and passenger wear masks while in the van, how on earth would this be enforced?

Masks are available now, yet almost nobody avails of them or of the other PPE such as disposable gloves. Token gestures of social distancing are made, yet not enforced.

As ever, people rush around like idiots just to try and finish early yet these same individuals will whinge like spoilt brats if they have to work all of their paid hours on heavier days.

I suspect a lot of these corner cutters would take a mask and loop it under their chin and even cover their nose and mouth until they are out of sight of the DO, then they would be tossed aside for the rest of the delivery only worn briefly as they re-enter the yard at the end of the shift.

So knowing that this would happen with all the risks of van share, it would put the business in a very tricky position legally. People can choose to have a driving lesson and consent to the risks. For an employer to instruct us to van share is a different matter entirely and leaves them potentially exposed to an avalanche of legal challenges in the future.

In the current circumstances, there is no way van shares will be brought back. Indeed, more than likely it is gone forever.

Blame would be put on the posties both passenger & driver for not adhering to RM policy of wearing a mask. Even if one wasnt wearing the mask both would be punished for (1) not wearing mask (2) getting into van with person not wearing mask.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 27 Jun 2020, 15:21

Rommagic wrote:On Facebook someone is saying Royal Mail are talking about van share back .

I think what's going on in Barnsley might put an end to any idea that might make it look like RM are not taking the pandemic seriously.

Donskip · Post by **Donskip** » 27 Jun 2020, 15:30

SierraOscarBravo wrote:
HA1 wrote:Van shares will come back in with the people wearing masks
Supposing van shares were reintroduced at some point on condition that both driver and passenger wear masks while in the van, how on earth would this be enforced?

Masks are available now, yet almost nobody avails of them or of the other PPE such as disposable gloves. Token gestures of social distancing are made, yet not enforced.

As ever, people rush around like idiots just to try and finish early yet these same individuals will whinge like spoilt brats if they have to work all of their paid hours on heavier days.

I suspect a lot of these corner cutters would take a mask and loop it under their chin and even cover their nose and mouth until they are out of sight of the DO, then they would be tossed aside for the rest of the delivery only worn briefly as they re-enter the yard at the end of the shift.

So knowing that this would happen with all the risks of van share, it would put the business in a very tricky position legally. People can choose to have a driving lesson and consent to the risks. For an employer to instruct us to van share is a different matter entirely and leaves them potentially exposed to an avalanche of legal challenges in the future.

In the current circumstances, there is no way van shares will be brought back. Indeed, more than likely it is gone forever.

Gone forever? Bit dramatic

cpsteve · Post by **cpsteve** » 28 Jun 2020, 12:16

Forget H and S some posties will do anything to finish early drive like nutters step over walls fences cut across rough ground miss breaks get in early if van share helps them finish early they will want it back if not they will make as many excuses as they can to stop it.

citypostie · Post by **citypostie** » 28 Jun 2020, 16:24

Chelseablue wrote:Some ppl wont have jobs to go bk to after furlogh . Another immature post , are you a bournemouth sunbather? Shakes my head at some idiotic posts

No I'm not a Bournemouth sunbather, funnily enough I've been at work! I'm sure plenty on the beaches are people enjoying their furlough holiday while saying it's too dangerous to go back to work or send their kids to school. Shakes my head at having to reply to idiotic posts

Joe4567 · Post by **Joe4567** » 29 Jun 2020, 19:34

2 suspended in my office for van sharing today

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » 29 Jun 2020, 19:40

Joe4567 wrote:2 suspended in my office for van sharing today

What made them do it? were they doing so for their own gains?

Also, does anybody know if using public transport is a valid/acceptable way of getting to your first delivery point - I've heard rumours of this, but surely not?

Post by **fb1969** » 29 Jun 2020, 20:13

I catch the bus out most days, it covers about 3/4 of the journey, and claim the fares back. Don't take any post with me, I meet the driver out there. Then a 25 minute walk back at the end.

glass joe · Post by **glass joe** » 29 Jun 2020, 20:21

Joe4567 wrote:2 suspended in my office for van sharing today

No doubt there couples who meet up at the start of their delivery, park the car and use the van rest of delivery.... did a member of the public grass them up?