And where does the money for all these vans come from? You appear to be talking about a van per duty not shared vans, that's a hell of a lot of money to buy/hire and then you have the running costs per year.norris9 wrote:I can only assume this.SpacePhoenix wrote:Is it possible that they might change all DO duties to have the requirement to be able to drive?norris9 wrote:So who is going first out of us Posties....
Will it be on seniority, whether you can drive, something else?
We are surely no longer going to be delivering letters everyday, we will be delivering letters once or twice a week. You can't be efficient in delivering parcels if you walk with a trolley. RM are trying to save money here.
At the moment we have non drivers who all finish way earlier than those who drive and they get to go home early, then on top of that someone else has to go and deliver the parcels for their round for them. It's totally inefficient and money down the drain for RM.
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A positive, surely?SpacePhoenix wrote:If they were to have it so that everyone had to be able to drive then they could have anyone on any duty any daynorris9 wrote:I can only assume this.SpacePhoenix wrote:Is it possible that they might change all DO duties to have the requirement to be able to drive?norris9 wrote:So who is going first out of us Posties....
Will it be on seniority, whether you can drive, something else?
We are surely no longer going to be delivering letters everyday, we will be delivering letters once or twice a week. You can't be efficient in delivering parcels if you walk with a trolley. RM are trying to save money here.
At the moment we have non drivers who all finish way earlier than those who drive and they get to go home early, then on top of that someone else has to go and deliver the parcels for their round for them. It's totally inefficient and money down the drain for RM.
I've seen many a duty fail because people 'don't know it'.
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About 90% of our vans are only used for about 5 hours a day. They won't be buying/leasing any more.A2B wrote:And where does the money for all these vans come from? You appear to be talking about a van per duty not shared vans, that's a hell of a lot of money to buy/hire and then you have the running costs per year.norris9 wrote:I can only assume this.SpacePhoenix wrote:Is it possible that they might change all DO duties to have the requirement to be able to drive?norris9 wrote:So who is going first out of us Posties....
Will it be on seniority, whether you can drive, something else?
We are surely no longer going to be delivering letters everyday, we will be delivering letters once or twice a week. You can't be efficient in delivering parcels if you walk with a trolley. RM are trying to save money here.
At the moment we have non drivers who all finish way earlier than those who drive and they get to go home early, then on top of that someone else has to go and deliver the parcels for their round for them. It's totally inefficient and money down the drain for RM.
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well - you have still got to send out another person on that non driver's duty to deliver the parcels.......in a van.A2B wrote:And where does the money for all these vans come from? You appear to be talking about a van per duty not shared vans, that's a hell of a lot of money to buy/hire and then you have the running costs per year.
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You may lick to look at The Union Room to see the proposals for Click & Collect Collections
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I knowCucumber wrote:About 90% of our vans are only used for about 5 hours a day. They won't be buying/leasing any more.A2B wrote:And where does the money for all these vans come from? You appear to be talking about a van per duty not shared vans, that's a hell of a lot of money to buy/hire and then you have the running costs per year.norris9 wrote:I can only assume this.SpacePhoenix wrote:Is it possible that they might change all DO duties to have the requirement to be able to drive?norris9 wrote:So who is going first out of us Posties....
Will it be on seniority, whether you can drive, something else?
We are surely no longer going to be delivering letters everyday, we will be delivering letters once or twice a week. You can't be efficient in delivering parcels if you walk with a trolley. RM are trying to save money here.
At the moment we have non drivers who all finish way earlier than those who drive and they get to go home early, then on top of that someone else has to go and deliver the parcels for their round for them. It's totally inefficient and money down the drain for RM.
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If we went to just parcels some days then one van would take out 2 walks probably, you wont need extra vans.
I can see them keeping the part timers on a 3 day week on a 25 hr contract but a longer delivery span just doing letters,something like 6;30-1500 and prep your own walk. The full timers would be in all the time doing a mix of letters for one walk one day, the two walks worth of parcels the next.
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mon/ pt letters and ft letters +oversized
tue/ ft parcels 2 walks
weds/ pt letters and ft letters +oversized
thurs/ ft parcels 2 walks
fri/ pt letters and ft letters+oversized
sat/ ft parcels 2 walks.
I can see them keeping the part timers on a 3 day week on a 25 hr contract but a longer delivery span just doing letters,something like 6;30-1500 and prep your own walk. The full timers would be in all the time doing a mix of letters for one walk one day, the two walks worth of parcels the next.
ie
mon/ pt letters and ft letters +oversized
tue/ ft parcels 2 walks
weds/ pt letters and ft letters +oversized
thurs/ ft parcels 2 walks
fri/ pt letters and ft letters+oversized
sat/ ft parcels 2 walks.
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So the HCT duties in your office don't take out any parcels? Strange system, no wonder they are getting finished earlynorris9 wrote:well - you have still got to send out another person on that non driver's duty to deliver the parcels.......in a van.A2B wrote:And where does the money for all these vans come from? You appear to be talking about a van per duty not shared vans, that's a hell of a lot of money to buy/hire and then you have the running costs per year.
Is it in your duty to deliver the oversize parcels?
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This has been going on so long i'd forgotten about it, any date when it starts?wallan wrote:Items Shoe Box Size & above will circulate via the New Packet / Packet Hubs & LAT Delivery Offices
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You may like to look at the Union Room Section regarding the proposed introduction of Click & Collect Items up to a max of 20 Kl,sA2B wrote:So the HCT duties in your office don't take out any parcels? Strange system, no wonder they are getting finished earlynorris9 wrote:well - you have still got to send out another person on that non driver's duty to deliver the parcels.......in a van.A2B wrote:And where does the money for all these vans come from? You appear to be talking about a van per duty not shared vans, that's a hell of a lot of money to buy/hire and then you have the running costs per year.
Is it in your duty to deliver the oversize parcels?
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Not been spoken about since Rico departed,and it’s an issue the CWU was dead against as they have said time & time again that it will lead to job losses. Be interesting to see how this pans outA2B wrote:This has been going on so long i'd forgotten about it, any date when it starts?wallan wrote:Items Shoe Box Size & above will circulate via the New Packet / Packet Hubs & LAT Delivery Offices
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Agreed !! They voted to take the 30 pieces of Silver , when we had our ballot before xmas and got a nice productivity bonus into the bargain. No pity should be extended from CWU members!!antcpfc wrote:35 years in this job and I’ve seen enough of the CMA members do our jobs when we are on strike to answer truthfully I couldn’t care less.
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The earliest it can be is once all three hubs have been built and the machinery installed. My gut feeling is that it won't be this side of xmasA2B wrote:This has been going on so long i'd forgotten about it, any date when it starts?wallan wrote:Items Shoe Box Size & above will circulate via the New Packet / Packet Hubs & LAT Delivery Offices
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I think you will find they planned to start rolling it out in certain areas once the first parcel center became live. And the 300 local parcel hubs may have indoor sorting jobs which could accommodate non drivers along with continued HCT letter only deliveries . Who knows!SpacePhoenix wrote:The earliest it can be is once all three hubs have been built and the machinery installed. My gut feeling is that it won't be this side of xmasA2B wrote:This has been going on so long i'd forgotten about it, any date when it starts?wallan wrote:Items Shoe Box Size & above will circulate via the New Packet / Packet Hubs & LAT Delivery Offices