It's not new, as others have already pointed out they can ask you to do anything you are trained to do within your hours. If you think you are being singled out then you put in a grievance but in this case i don't think you'll get the outcome you want.worktotime wrote:not in this agreement what royal mail have thrown in , by executive action by the way .SpacePhoenix wrote:Yep, everyone has at the bottom of their 318 a bit that reads something like "or as directed"Frankie15 wrote:I've always been told that although you can sign for a duty you dont own that duty!! As stupid as that sounds. Basically everyone does as required or requested by your line manager.
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was that the agreement the CWU agreed to ? as its shite and I didn't read it that way ,ThatsNotPlumb wrote:There doesn't need to be any agreement to move you, you're employed as directed & management can move you wherever & whenever they like within your DO.worktotime wrote:Hi can any CWU reps tell me if there is a new agreement with royal mail that posties can be REMOVED off there permanent duty ? during this farce of Saturday working ? , as I was told there is a new agreement , and to be honest this s**t should have never been allowed to be brought in so never find a way to f**k posties around , and if this is true I will be pulling my membership \as will a few more , so any help would be appreciated .
The only objections you could have would be if your start/finish times were changing on short notice or if they tried to send you to another DO.
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This is week 4 of packet only Saturdays - what's been happening until now?
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chocolatesaltyballs
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ADSO ... At the Discretion of the Supervising Officer ..so effectively they can tell you to do whatever they want within your contracted hours but only ever do it if you don't kick up a stink.SpacePhoenix wrote:Yep, everyone has at the bottom of their 318 a bit that reads something like "or as directed"Frankie15 wrote:I've always been told that although you can sign for a duty you dont own that duty!! As stupid as that sounds. Basically everyone does as required or requested by your line manager.
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Or they usually move the quiet ones!! Ones that wont whine. At the end of the day the job is the same no matter where you do it. Your finishing time never changes!!
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chocolatesaltyballs
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That's the way I look at it, I basically don't care what I'm on from day to day as I can work my contracted hours regardless or if I'm in the mood I can book extended. My DOM knows this and moves me regularly as I don't give him grief and he doesn't give me grief if I bring part of a delivery back.Frankie15 wrote:Or they usually move the quiet ones!! Ones that wont whine. At the end of the day the job is the same no matter where you do it. Your finishing time never changes!!
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well I had seen the comments over something that should never had been allowed to be brought in by the CWU and by sounds of it the company has used this to there advantage, yet again .
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Yes....this is what people repeat, but it's never that simple is it. You work to time, refuse to take some post out, your performance gets questioned, you get hounded, you have endless arguments, the managers ignore your opinions and just want it done because Herman the runner, who starts 30 mins early can do the round and wash his underpants before his finish time.Frankie15 wrote:Or they usually move the quiet ones!! Ones that wont whine. At the end of the day the job is the same no matter where you do it. Your finishing time never changes!!
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Exactly what I've said before. Our own colleagues are the worst when it comes to stitching us up. They will always make the job hard for us with their selfish ways. Yes managers have their moments but in my 25 years I have always found our so called own to be hard to work with.
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This parcels only on a Saturday is nothing more than a cost saving exercise. Plain and simple.
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And it'll stay like that well past June 13th. We've been duped to think its temporary!!
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Did you say to your manager you are not happy to move?
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There isn't any agreement, it's just the terms of your employment that your employed as directed, which isn't anything revolutionary as most companies have employee contracts worded as such so they can shift staff about as & where it's needed within their business.worktotime wrote:was that the agreement the CWU agreed to ? as its shite and I didn't read it that way ,ThatsNotPlumb wrote:There doesn't need to be any agreement to move you, you're employed as directed & management can move you wherever & whenever they like within your DO.worktotime wrote:Hi can any CWU reps tell me if there is a new agreement with royal mail that posties can be REMOVED off there permanent duty ? during this farce of Saturday working ? , as I was told there is a new agreement , and to be honest this s**t should have never been allowed to be brought in so never find a way to f**k posties around , and if this is true I will be pulling my membership \as will a few more , so any help would be appreciated .
The only objections you could have would be if your start/finish times were changing on short notice or if they tried to send you to another DO.
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In theory they can have any staff member work at any RM office anywhere in the UKThatsNotPlumb wrote:There isn't any agreement, it's just the terms of your employment that your employed as directed, which isn't anything revolutionary as most companies have employee contracts worded as such so they can shift staff about as & where it's needed within their business.worktotime wrote:was that the agreement the CWU agreed to ? as its shite and I didn't read it that way ,ThatsNotPlumb wrote:There doesn't need to be any agreement to move you, you're employed as directed & management can move you wherever & whenever they like within your DO.worktotime wrote:Hi can any CWU reps tell me if there is a new agreement with royal mail that posties can be REMOVED off there permanent duty ? during this farce of Saturday working ? , as I was told there is a new agreement , and to be honest this s**t should have never been allowed to be brought in so never find a way to f**k posties around , and if this is true I will be pulling my membership \as will a few more , so any help would be appreciated .
The only objections you could have would be if your start/finish times were changing on short notice or if they tried to send you to another DO.
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Where is this agreement? What's it called?worktotime wrote: read the agreement mate , any changes is VOLUNTARY , don't comment mate if you don't understand .