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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

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darkgable
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by darkgable »

Woody Guthrie wrote:People doing Scheduled Attendance are putting jobs at risk.
Discuss.
Anybody doing any kind of overtime is putting jobs at risk.
Discuss.
Pretty much anything you do whether it's work too slowly or fly around like an idiot could potentially cost jobs.

If people moving from a rotated day off to a fixed day off is putting jobs at risk you'll have to join the dots for me, I must be missing something and it has to be better than it'll end up with Ofcom giving Royal Mail the green light to go for a 5 day service because that's just being silly.
It was explained to me like this , But im sure you already know as you seem like an intelligent guy . If your a duty holder great , you change, work Monday to Friday. So now the floater who used to cover your day of through the week does not have a job , as your working Monday to Friday . So now the floater either has to cover annual leave or sick absences along with the reserves . So now the floaters are getting shafted . On a Saturday if your office does not have many of sick and they only need 50% of staff, theirs going to be bodies spare . Hence people could loose there jobs if this was to become permanent . Its all about preventing change in the office without an agreement . Most in my office have continued there normal rotation . which means we have too many people on a Saturday with only packets being delivered and mondays now they have to pay overtime . :crazy:
rambo1
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by rambo1 »

DICKIEG wrote:It's okay working mon -fri if all days are equal but if your having every sat off and your on long and shorts your giving Royal mail time. As sat is less hours than a Wednesday for instance
No your not. If you swop your Thursday off for Saturday that week, then you work Saturday hrs on Thurs and claim the overtime or cut off. It's that simple. Just explain it to your managr and put a note on the docket sheet. They probably think they are gonna get away with this, but not with me, or anyone else who's sensible.
2yearpostie
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by 2yearpostie »

Cogger62 wrote:CWU rep confirmed Union have agreed that all reserves have to adopt mon-fri for next 5 weeks
Thats funny i havent and told my dom im happy to work sat and have day in week off and thats whats happening.
Woody Guthrie
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by Woody Guthrie »

Cogger62 wrote:CWU rep confirmed Union have agreed that all reserves have to adopt mon-fri for next 5 weeks
The union haven't agreed that.
It was agreed as the position of last resort if no agreement could be reached in an office after the input of area and divisional reps and no volunteers could be found that annual leave reserves would be re-aligned to a Mon-Fri.

The actual section from the agreement..
In the event no agreement had been reached the Operations Manager and Area Delivery CWU Rep will review outstanding issues on Wednesday 6th May 2020.

 The respective SDL and Divisional representative will oversee activities and be available as apoint of support and fast track the escalation process to resolve any issues if necessary.

 If no agreement can be reached existing duty structures and attendance times will remain in place and unchanged, however the focus of the Saturday delivery operation will remain on
parcels only. Annual Leave Reserves in this case will be re-aligned to Monday – Friday attendances to enhance USO coverage.

Only dead fish follow the current
smok3y666
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by smok3y666 »

I'm on Mon-Fri and have taken the view point of everyone else in my office, look after number 1.
Chelseablue
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by Chelseablue »

Were all in this together ,,, always knew we werent .
cpsteve
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by cpsteve »

darkgable wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:People doing Scheduled Attendance are putting jobs at risk.
Discuss.
Anybody doing any kind of overtime is putting jobs at risk.
Discuss.
Pretty much anything you do whether it's work too slowly or fly around like an idiot could potentially cost jobs.

If people moving from a rotated day off to a fixed day off is putting jobs at risk you'll have to join the dots for me, I must be missing something and it has to be better than it'll end up with Ofcom giving Royal Mail the green light to go for a 5 day service because that's just being silly.
It was explained to me like this , But im sure you already know as you seem like an intelligent guy . If your a duty holder great , you change, work Monday to Friday. So now the floater who used to cover your day of through the week does not have a job , as your working Monday to Friday . So now the floater either has to cover annual leave or sick absences along with the reserves . So now the floaters are getting shafted . On a Saturday if your office does not have many of sick and they only need 50% of staff, theirs going to be bodies spare . Hence people could loose there jobs if this was to become permanent . Its all about preventing change in the office without an agreement . Most in my office have continued there normal rotation . which means we have too many people on a Saturday with only packets being delivered and mondays now they have to pay overtime . :crazy:
If you swap your rest day then it is you who has no duty on your original day off, your rest day cover is not moved unless they agree.
citypostie
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by citypostie »

cpsteve wrote:
darkgable wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:People doing Scheduled Attendance are putting jobs at risk.
Discuss.
Anybody doing any kind of overtime is putting jobs at risk.
Discuss.
Pretty much anything you do whether it's work too slowly or fly around like an idiot could potentially cost jobs.

If people moving from a rotated day off to a fixed day off is putting jobs at risk you'll have to join the dots for me, I must be missing something and it has to be better than it'll end up with Ofcom giving Royal Mail the green light to go for a 5 day service because that's just being silly.
It was explained to me like this , But im sure you already know as you seem like an intelligent guy . If your a duty holder great , you change, work Monday to Friday. So now the floater who used to cover your day of through the week does not have a job , as your working Monday to Friday . So now the floater either has to cover annual leave or sick absences along with the reserves . So now the floaters are getting shafted . On a Saturday if your office does not have many of sick and they only need 50% of staff, theirs going to be bodies spare . Hence people could loose there jobs if this was to become permanent . Its all about preventing change in the office without an agreement . Most in my office have continued there normal rotation . which means we have too many people on a Saturday with only packets being delivered and mondays now they have to pay overtime . :crazy:
If you swap your rest day then it is you who has no duty on your original day off, your rest day cover is not moved unless they agree.
I can guarantee you if I'm asked to swop my Thursday off to a Saturday and I agree I would be doing my own duty on the Thursday. But I'm staying on my normal rotation anyway
cpsteve
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by cpsteve »

I can guarantee you if I'm asked to swop my Thursday off to a Saturday and I agree I would be doing my own duty on the Thursday. But I'm staying on my normal rotation anyway

Thats a terrible attitude but not unusual in the RM.
wookie
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by wookie »

People have already worked their rest day this week to have Saturday off. Some are Drivers. :arrrghhh
cpsteve
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by cpsteve »

wookie wrote:People have already worked their rest day this week to have Saturday off. Some are Drivers. :arrrghhh
That is their choice as long as they dont expect to take the RDC of their job on their original rest day.
da'bunny
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by da'bunny »

Woody Guthrie wrote:People doing Scheduled Attendance are putting jobs at risk.
Discuss.
How? SA is COMPULSORY in my office every Saturday. I would love to work only Mon-Fri and give it up. We don't have a rotating day off and working 6 days a week is no good for work/life balance :/
Just say NO ....to the new agreement.
aiden01
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by aiden01 »

da'bunny wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:People doing Scheduled Attendance are putting jobs at risk.
Discuss.
How? SA is COMPULSORY in my office every Saturday. I would love to work only Mon-Fri and give it up. We don't have a rotating day off and working 6 days a week is no good for work/life balance :/
Never heard of SA being compulsory.
Woody Guthrie
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by Woody Guthrie »

da'bunny wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:People doing Scheduled Attendance are putting jobs at risk.
Discuss.
How? SA is COMPULSORY in my office every Saturday. I would love to work only Mon-Fri and give it up. We don't have a rotating day off and working 6 days a week is no good for work/life balance :/
SA is not compulsory in any office, there is no compulsory overtime in Royal Mail.
You have to sign an undertaking and you can cancel at one month's notice.

It says so in the SA agreement
If personal or business circumstances change, and undertaking may be terminated within annual period by the giving of one month's notice by either Royal Mail or the employee.
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rambo1
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Those taking up option of Mon-Fri working are selfish and putting jobs at risk.

Post by rambo1 »

da'bunny wrote:
Woody Guthrie wrote:People doing Scheduled Attendance are putting jobs at risk.
Discuss.
How? SA is COMPULSORY in my office every Saturday. I would love to work only Mon-Fri and give it up. We don't have a rotating day off and working 6 days a week is no good for work/life balance :/
Thought we went to 5day week like 15 yrs ago if I remember?