Woody Guthrie wrote:This means that the non-driving partner on a shared duty can use their own car to drive to the first delivery point and along the route, where required. Where this is applicable, drivers will be subject to the same licence checking, health declaration and training arrangements, as are temporarily in place for driving Royal Mail vans.
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Not without business use insurance they can't
Woody Guthrie wrote:This means that the non-driving partner on a shared duty can use their own car to drive to the first delivery point and along the route, where required. Where this is applicable, drivers will be subject to the same licence checking, health declaration and training arrangements, as are temporarily in place for driving Royal Mail vans.
Not without business use insurance they can't
The can if they're happy to go with Royal Mail's third party coverage.
Not that I would but that's the legal position.
Woody Guthrie wrote:This means that the non-driving partner on a shared duty can use their own car to drive to the first delivery point and along the route, where required. Where this is applicable, drivers will be subject to the same licence checking, health declaration and training arrangements, as are temporarily in place for driving Royal Mail vans.
Not without business use insurance they can't
The can if they're happy to go with Royal Mail's third party coverage.
Not that I would but that's the legal position.
Would it properly cover them or would the police treat it as driving with no insurance?
Would it properly cover them or would the police treat it as driving with no insurance?
It would be legal but there are a couple of things to remember, if your vehicle is on HP or leased you will probably be breaking your credit or leasing agreement since both of these normally insist on comprehensive insurance.
I think as well Royal Mail's third party insurance would require you to own the vehicle outright so for instance you couldn't use the wife's car.
Woody Guthrie wrote:That position has now changed.
Further to previous communications covering the use of private cars to reach delivery points, we have now extended this arrangement to cover workers who do not normally drive a Royal Mail van.
This means that the non-driving partner on a shared duty can use their own car to drive to the first delivery point and along the route, where required. Where this is applicable, drivers will be subject to the same licence checking, health declaration and training arrangements, as are temporarily in place for driving Royal Mail vans.
Temporary controls for the use of private vehicles on delivery have been introduced and should be read in full here.
These controls apply to any private vehicle used to get to delivery points, and in order that we comply with our legal requirements to ensure the safety of our employees, it is important that all of these controls are followed. However, in particular, please follow these requirements:
This is limited to the use of private cars or vans – the use of motorcycles, cycles, e-scooters etc, is not permitted.
Mail must not be carried in private vehicles.
Drivers must have been trained, either on-road (for existing drivers) or using the temporary e-learning product.
The usual vehicle checks must be completed.
Collisions in private vehicles on delivery must be reported using the usual ERICA process and investigated following the usual Road Traffic Accident Procedure Agreement applicable to your business unit.
Have you got a link for this document as I questioned my DOM about carrying mail and he said it was fully covered
Woody Guthrie wrote:That position has now changed.
Further to previous communications covering the use of private cars to reach delivery points, we have now extended this arrangement to cover workers who do not normally drive a Royal Mail van.
This means that the non-driving partner on a shared duty can use their own car to drive to the first delivery point and along the route, where required. Where this is applicable, drivers will be subject to the same licence checking, health declaration and training arrangements, as are temporarily in place for driving Royal Mail vans.
Temporary controls for the use of private vehicles on delivery have been introduced and should be read in full here.
These controls apply to any private vehicle used to get to delivery points, and in order that we comply with our legal requirements to ensure the safety of our employees, it is important that all of these controls are followed. However, in particular, please follow these requirements:
This is limited to the use of private cars or vans – the use of motorcycles, cycles, e-scooters etc, is not permitted.
Mail must not be carried in private vehicles.
Drivers must have been trained, either on-road (for existing drivers) or using the temporary e-learning product.
The usual vehicle checks must be completed.
Collisions in private vehicles on delivery must be reported using the usual ERICA process and investigated following the usual Road Traffic Accident Procedure Agreement applicable to your business unit.
Have you got a link for this document as I questioned my DOM about carrying mail and he said it was fully covered
Woody Guthrie wrote:That position has now changed.
Further to previous communications covering the use of private cars to reach delivery points, we have now extended this arrangement to cover workers who do not normally drive a Royal Mail van.
This means that the non-driving partner on a shared duty can use their own car to drive to the first delivery point and along the route, where required. Where this is applicable, drivers will be subject to the same licence checking, health declaration and training arrangements, as are temporarily in place for driving Royal Mail vans.
Temporary controls for the use of private vehicles on delivery have been introduced and should be read in full here.
These controls apply to any private vehicle used to get to delivery points, and in order that we comply with our legal requirements to ensure the safety of our employees, it is important that all of these controls are followed. However, in particular, please follow these requirements:
This is limited to the use of private cars or vans – the use of motorcycles, cycles, e-scooters etc, is not permitted.
Mail must not be carried in private vehicles.
Drivers must have been trained, either on-road (for existing drivers) or using the temporary e-learning product.
The usual vehicle checks must be completed.
Collisions in private vehicles on delivery must be reported using the usual ERICA process and investigated following the usual Road Traffic Accident Procedure Agreement applicable to your business unit.
Woodie, I'd missed that, but even so from your quote they still have to have had 'some' training......:
drivers will be subject to the same licence checking, health declaration and training arrangements, as are temporarily in place for driving Royal Mail vans
then
Drivers must have been trained, either on-road (for existing drivers) or using the temporary e-learning product.
So they have to be trained to some sort of degree... - NIcmc1981's post seems to suggest he hasn't.
These phrases from CWU's LTB 231/20 sum it up perfectly for me:
Members participating in this ‘Private Cars on Delivery’ scheme will be exposed to a degree of risk,.....
Members also need to be aware that in the event of a ‘non-blameworthy’ accident they will have to conduct a claim against the third party themselves, who may or may not be insured. Royal Mail will not help them in any way.