Also chances are that the number of parcels will drop off a lot as people lose their jobs as a result of all thispanzer4 wrote:Wacko74 you’re right the six day delivery is dead and should be laid to rest.life after this virus has finished with us will never be the same firms will close and unemployment will go up wether we like it or not jobs will go the union needs to realise this and try to get the best offer on redundancy
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SpacePhoenix
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who says they'll stop after winning the uso?panzer4 wrote:Wacko74 you’re right the six day delivery is dead and should be laid to rest.life after this virus has finished with us will never be the same firms will close and unemployment will go up wether we like it or not jobs will go the union needs to realise this and try to get the best offer on redundancy
paid breaks and full sick pay will follow, then probably a reduction in our pensions
these guys have tacticians of war standards ours are like the keystone cops
we still shouldn't strike whilst in this situation, but we need something set asap to upset the apple cart,
not sure of the ramifications on a work to rule as there's too many pt staff reliant on overtime
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stodgy88
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Are the agreements on redundancies covered by the law ,or can they be just ignored like duty structures etc, that are been changed ?
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Rommagic
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Will non drivers get a letter not required on Saturdays.
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IloveMYredTROLLEY!
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Some staff, presumably non-drivers, will be required on Saturdays to prep all the D2D in frames ready for the following week.Rommagic wrote:Will non drivers get a letter not required on Saturdays.
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well i would have though if the whole office defy their request then they would have to send everybody home. but then again,..will the whole office defy them. should be interesting.Woody Guthrie wrote:It is hoped that your office will back you.stoneybroke wrote:In defiance of the company’s unilateral action, all members should continue to adhere to their currently agreed duty/attendance arrangements.
So when the manager tells us to start the new duties, we have to continue to turn up for work on the days and times we're doing at the moment. Will the CWU back us when the s**t hits the fan??
When the first member is suspended for failing to follow a reasonable request the whole office walks.
That's the theory anyway.....
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Rommagic
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Some offices are stopping the run of mech on Friday nights.
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The word on the street is that non-drivers will be on a fixed Mon-Fri.IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:Some staff, presumably non-drivers, will be required on Saturdays to prep all the D2D in frames ready for the following week.Rommagic wrote:Will non drivers get a letter not required on Saturdays.
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Word on the street is wrong.Woody Guthrie wrote:The word on the street is that non-drivers will be on a fixed Mon-Fri.IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:Some staff, presumably non-drivers, will be required on Saturdays to prep all the D2D in frames ready for the following week.Rommagic wrote:Will non drivers get a letter not required on Saturdays.
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FacesOfStone
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I highly doubt the veracity of that, but if true, good luck getting an efficient five day week out of 20 hour 3 or 4 day contracts. By the time everything is bagged and ready to go, there’ll be max three hours left for delivery and getting back to the office & unloading at the end of shift, which means cut-offs galore, Tracked and Specials included.Woody Guthrie wrote:The word on the street is that non-drivers will be on a fixed Mon-Fri.IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:Some staff, presumably non-drivers, will be required on Saturdays to prep all the D2D in frames ready for the following week.Rommagic wrote:Will non drivers get a letter not required on Saturdays.
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HTPostman
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Exactly. PT reserve here, I usually find out on the Friday or Saturday what my day off is and what rounds I’m on the next week. Although the rounds can and usually do change as soon as I walk in the door.Woody Guthrie wrote:How many members turn up on a Monday morning not even knowing what their agreed duties /attendance arrangements are for that week?themailman wrote:Shifts/people/duties are already being aligned and moved for this Saturday in our office.
People are co-operating with management despite being told not to.
Those are the guys they'll shunt about, the reserves and part-timer and how can we tell them to say no to a Saturday off when they've had bugger all support from the union for years.
1 in 6 Saturdays off? No chance, more like 1 in 56. I’ve done nearly 5 years for the business and think I’ve had 1 long weekend. Bank holiday Friday next week, guess what my day off is? Friday! I’ve had FT cover duty guys use seniority to move me off a round I’m covering because it’s easier than the one they were meant to be doing.
The only thing that surprises me is Rico and management don’t target the PTers with a bit of propoganda because a lot of us are peed off - Not just at being messed about by managers but having experienced colleagues using seniority on us.
Anyway I’ll repeat what I keep saying: I can cope with having to work afternoon into early evening, I’ll cope with having all my OT cut, I’ll accept never having my own round, I’ll tolerate colleagues doing what they can to make it an easier day for themselves (eg dumping and sneaking their tracked parcels on our yorks when we are doing the afternoon shift....then we have no choice but to take them). All I want is to keep my job.
The day is gonna come when we’re all gonna have to testify.
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“Don’t waste a crisis”The changes they advocate go to the very heart of our dispute and our ability to protect the 6 day USO, our members’ jobs and this great public service. We stepped back from our dispute to do the right thing for our nation during this pandemic and Royal Mail Group agreed to do the same but they are now breaking that agreement.
The expression was most recently popularized by Rahm Emanuel, chief of staff to former President Barack Obama. “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste,” he said. The original quote included this explanation: “And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.”
Rico and his gang are exploring the current crisis to the max to get away with changes that they never would be able to implement under ordinary circumstances - like permanently canceling Saturday deliveries. Six-day delivery will never come back once the COVID 19 pandemic is over.
Call it what it is, Utilizing Coronavirus for Political/Business Gain!
Shameful behaviour!
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LaggyBand
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Great quote. I myself believe “new normal” is being used for a reason. We aren’t going back to how it was. Both in RM and wider.
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hero22
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Is it not the decision of Ofcom whether Saturday delivery comes back or ever disappears ?