RM latest changes to service

[Edward Hunter]

I would love Monday - Friday, or at least the chance to have more Saturdays off, i would also be sorely tempted by EVR as i know a lot of senior guys would. Looking at Letter volumes i can see where RM are coming from tbh. Managed correctly there may not be too much opposition to this.

[rambo1]

Striking would be catastrophic. When people are losing their jobs, being furloughed, making sacrifices and dying, we would be slaughtered by public and press. We are lucky we can still work. There’s a time for a strike and it ain’t now

Tend to agree. There are more in worse condition that us. Wait till they actually mention job losses till we discuss what were going to do. BA just announced up to 12,000 redundancies. The world is basically fxxcked now. Should have just let it take it's course and protected the vulnerable. There will be far far more deaths from the economic hardships that the next 10-15 years or even longer will bring, than will ever die from covid 19. I think the world will look back in 50yrs and say, we got it wrong. Yes it's a tradegy that 21,000 UK citizens have died so far, but it's a drop in the ocean compared to how many will die from the resultant deviation of the world economy. We ARE lucky to even have a job, for now. In 5yrs I believe there will be no royal mail. Just my thoughts.

[eastie]

what does it mean for fulltime staff, will they work their day off and have Saturday off?

[Chitchat]

I would love Monday - Friday, or at least the chance to have more Saturdays off, i would also be sorely tempted by EVR as i know a lot of senior guys would. Looking at Letter volumes i can see where RM are coming from tbh. Managed correctly there may not be too much opposition to this.

Your looking at this from a person coming to the end of their working life. I look at it from keeping as many good quality jobs as we can so the next generation can have at least the same level of employment security and quality as I and you have enjoyed. You may say great I get Saturday's off. Yes maybe for now. But what's the next idea to save money deliveries every other day?

[Seymour Buts]

I would love Monday - Friday, or at least the chance to have more Saturdays off, i would also be sorely tempted by EVR as i know a lot of senior guys would. Looking at Letter volumes i can see where RM are coming from tbh. Managed correctly there may not be too much opposition to this.

Depends on your point of view, for those who have signed rest day sa contracts it's roughly a 20% pay cut overnight. With respect, they've done this 'coz they know the reaction of many will be like yours: great, weekends off. They've rammed this through without any consultation pretending it's about covid when it's really about pushing an agender to undermine letters which are the most labour intensive part of the business. This is a major step towards becoming Hermes, Yodel ect.

[rambo1]

I would love Monday - Friday, or at least the chance to have more Saturdays off, i would also be sorely tempted by EVR as i know a lot of senior guys would. Looking at Letter volumes i can see where RM are coming from tbh. Managed correctly there may not be too much opposition to this.

Depends on your point of view, for those who have signed rest day sa contracts it's roughly a 20% pay cut overnight. With respect, they've done this 'coz they know the reaction of many will be like yours: great, weekends off. They've rammed this through without any consultation pretending it's about covid when it's really about pushing an agender to undermine letters which are the most labour intensive part of the business. This is a major step towards becoming Hermes, Yodel ect.

It's not weekends off is it. It's just don't take a couple of hundred letters per delivery on Saturday. That's not Saturdays off.

[cpsteve]

I would love Monday - Friday, or at least the chance to have more Saturdays off, i would also be sorely tempted by EVR as i know a lot of senior guys would. Looking at Letter volumes i can see where RM are coming from tbh. Managed correctly there may not be too much opposition to this.

Depends on your point of view, for those who have signed rest day sa contracts it's roughly a 20% pay cut overnight. With respect, they've done this 'coz they know the reaction of many will be like yours: great, weekends off. They've rammed this through without any consultation pretending it's about covid when it's really about pushing an agender to undermine letters which are the most labour intensive part of the business. This is a major step towards becoming Hermes, Yodel ect.

It's not weekends off is it. It's just don't take a couple of hundred letters per delivery on Saturday. That's not Saturdays off.

It will be for some maybe 1 in 3 and if extra staff are in during the week you can bet that they will want staggered starts later finishes to social distance giving them exactly what they wanted via the back door. The union/us have a tough call to make.

[meercat]

But what's the next idea to save money deliveries every other day?

There is an old saying isn't there - 'pick your battles wisely'?

We are all seemingly headed towards a 35hr working week anyway and doing that over Mon-Fri is probably more achievable than Mon-Sat.

And surely 5 days a week FT with far more Sats off would still be a good job, arguably a better job?

[da'bunny]

In theory it would potentially mean Saturdays off for some of us at my office as we work 6 days a week (Saturday is compulsory SA)
It wouldnt make sense if those who do trolley rounds only take parcels as not many would fit in, so not sure how that would work.

[meercat]

That's not Saturdays off.

Maybe one person could cover the tracked+recorded packets on 3 or 4 rounds if that is all they are delivering. In that case only 1 in 4 staff would need to attend on a Sat.

If ALL packets are going then maybe 1 person could cover 2 or maybe 3 rounds so maybe less than half the office would be be needed to come in on a Sat.

With no letters involved you'd get out the door pretty quick with your packets - plus a big bloody list!

[mickeymacca]

But what's the next idea to save money deliveries every other day?

There is an old saying isn't there - 'pick your battles wisely'?

We are all seemingly headed towards a 35hr working week anyway and doing that over Mon-Fri is probably more achievable than Mon-Sat.

And surely 5 days a week FT with far more Sats off would still be a good job, arguably a better job?

I think the main reservation is the uncertainty about the employment status of many our colleagues going forward. It might be brilliant though, as you allude to......

regards

[POSTMAN]

Added to the 1st post...

Services now delivered on a Saturday
1st Class Parcels
1st Class Signed For Parcels, Large Letters and Letters
2nd Class Parcels
2nd Class Signed For Parcels, Large Letters and Letters
Royal Mail 24 Parcels and Large Letters
Royal Mail Tracked 24 & 48 Parcels and Tracked Letterboxable formats
Royal Mail Tracked Returns
Special Delivery Guaranteed by 9am* (all formats)
Special Delivery Guaranteed by 1pm* (all formats)
International import tracked services (all formats)


* We currently have some temporary changes to the timings of our guarantees on Special Delivery Guaranteed services in force (9am and 1pm).

[Phantom]

20,000 job losses including one third of all the managers will be cut.

[Woody Guthrie]

20,000 job losses including one third of all the managers will be cut.

Where do you get those numbers from?
We really need to calm the f**k down and see what's what before we start putting the fear of God into people.
It isn't helpful.

[endofdays1982]

all this bad news on national post day tomorrow, will timed, could mean duty changes, times changes ,everything will change this will be abig one to stomach , lot of changes