daveyeff wrote:they got us in the middle of the floor today. this was their patter....:-GAFFER...RM want us to know they think this 'social distancing' thing is to become permanent. they want the vans to be single use only from now on, so they are looking for 'volunteers'(at first) to opt to change their start times, so a postie will come in first thing and go out on delivery, come back and the next driver will take over the van, and go out and do his, this could be maybe 11 am start for the second driver, so he will be working till 7 at night. all the questions were asked....what about non drivers...their answer is to use all the non drivers to come in early prep duties and deliver only around the immediate locations next to the office. drivers will do the further away deliveries. they were open to any ideas and are looking for volunteers to start later. its openly obvious to anyone with half an ounce of sense that they see this as their golden opportunity to capitalise on the virus situation and bring in the LAT duties. its obvious they haven't got a plan because they are asking us for ideas. not that any of us want to start at dinner time, (well 2 staff said they would) but to use 'social distancing as their excuse is beyond belief. they said its the only safest option!!. one lad said 'so you think this is not going to end?...no more football matches, no more pubs, no race meetings, no holidays abroad?' its one gigantic piss poor excuse to bring in LAT working. the rep said its not going to happen and take it all with a pinch of salt. its their hidden agenda and its Rico taking a chance. they are one desperate bunch this board.
Royal Mail accept that shared van working might not happen for some months. At our depot some postie's are starting at 2pm and finishing at 8pm. It's not for me and I've noticed it's the newer postie's that seem to be railroaded into doing it.
On the face of it, shareholder value is the dumbest idea in the world.
Why would anyone want to fill there car with parcels with CV 19 potentially on them and ruin said car with stop and starting all day .
No van no delivery surely .
Your not paid to supply a vehicle
elteleltel wrote:Why would anyone want to fill there car with parcels with CV 19 potentially on them and ruin said car with stop and starting all day .
No van no delivery surely .
Your not paid to supply a vehicle
To be fair that's not what RM are asking for with the use of cars.
They're just looking for people to take their car out to the first delivery point, not that I would until RM starts making the monthly payments on mine.
yes much safer in your own vehicle and would never carry larger packets only mail and small pkts and only till things get back to normall or near enough
mags999 wrote:yes much safer in your own vehicle and would never carry larger packets only mail and small pkts and only till things get back to normall or near enough
Just to clarify, you are still not allowed to transport or store any mail/parcels in your personal vehicle
Oh and things won't be getting back to "normal" for a long while yet.
mags999 wrote:yes much safer in your own vehicle and would never carry larger packets only mail and small pkts and only till things get back to normall or near enough
Just to clarify, you are still not allowed to transport or store any mail/parcels in your personal vehicle
Oh and things won't be getting back to "normal" for a long while yet.
Correct. There's a huge insurance issue here.
Use your car for getting to first delivery point only and you are only covered third party by RM. You are not covered by your own insurance.
Use your car for carrying your first bag or subsequent bags or packets and you are not covered by either RM or your insurance company. Getting caught with mail in the car could see your car impounded and a six point fine.
Hermes drivers are being followed by thieves and having their cars/vans stolen. Happened twice now in my area once on my delivery and once locally. People are getting desperate out there and it doesn't take much to work out a posties habits when using their car.
Celgar wrote:I raised the question of why Posties are not allowed to share vans at the moment versus other key workers such as the emergency services and dustmen that are allowed to with our DOM. He could see the logic that is makes no sense to stop posties sharing vans as they are only together in the van for a few minutes versus say the police who are in the car together for hours.
He is going to raise this question at the next managers meeting so that could be interesting although I'm not expecting to get a reversal in policy. It is starting to look like the union and/or RM are using this issue to **** up our lives and jobs. It would be nice if the union consulted with the workforce before going ahead with major decisions. They are not God and do not necessarily know what is best for us. Another one of those situations where one party thinks we work for them when they actually work for us!!!
I wont be going in a van with anyone..crazy post
Do you think sitting next to someone can get you the virus?
Celgar wrote:I raised the question of why Posties are not allowed to share vans at the moment versus other key workers such as the emergency services and dustmen that are allowed to with our DOM. He could see the logic that is makes no sense to stop posties sharing vans as they are only together in the van for a few minutes versus say the police who are in the car together for hours.
He is going to raise this question at the next managers meeting so that could be interesting although I'm not expecting to get a reversal in policy. It is starting to look like the union and/or RM are using this issue to **** up our lives and jobs. It would be nice if the union consulted with the workforce before going ahead with major decisions. They are not God and do not necessarily know what is best for us. Another one of those situations where one party thinks we work for them when they actually work for us!!!
I wont be going in a van with anyone..crazy post
Do you think sitting next to someone can get you the virus?
Yes if they sneeze or cough then yes
Ive never been sneezed or coughed on by a passenger in my car or van, ive been driving for 35 years so maybe im just lucky.
Ive never been sneezed or coughed on by a passenger in my car or van, ive been driving for 35 years so maybe im just lucky.
It's clearly obvious from your posts that you know nothing about the transmission of viruses in enclosed spaces, contact transmission or what actually happens when someone sneezes.
That's fair enough, you're a postman and no one is forcing you to research anything or listen to experts but the Internet is not the place to show your lack of knowledge and there are enough people telling others to do dangerous things without you adding to it.
I just hope that your own ignorance of the facts does not lead to someone's death. That's a hell of a burden to carry around.
Ive never been sneezed or coughed on by a passenger in my car or van, ive been driving for 35 years so maybe im just lucky.
It's clearly obvious from your posts that you know nothing about the transmission of viruses in enclosed spaces, contact transmission or what actually happens when someone sneezes.
That's fair enough, you're a postman and no one is forcing you to research anything or listen to experts but the Internet is not the place to show your lack of knowledge and there are enough people telling others to do dangerous things without you adding to it.
I just hope that your own ignorance of the facts does not lead to someone's death. That's a hell of a burden to carry around.
Is irrelevant that someone is only a postman so won’t have any knowledgeable of things. He’s still a human being and with that comes certain responsibility especially at times likes this.
One or two idiots like these in every office thats why its a huge concern with them going about with total disregard of anyone else . 20,000 prob more like 30,000 deaths at mo , take care of youreself.
Ive never been sneezed or coughed on by a passenger in my car or van, ive been driving for 35 years so maybe im just lucky.
It's clearly obvious from your posts that you know nothing about the transmission of viruses in enclosed spaces, contact transmission or what actually happens when someone sneezes.
That's fair enough, you're a postman and no one is forcing you to research anything or listen to experts but the Internet is not the place to show your lack of knowledge and there are enough people telling others to do dangerous things without you adding to it.
I just hope that your own ignorance of the facts does not lead to someone's death. That's a hell of a burden to carry around.
I am not ignorant of the facts they are clear if you sit next to someone you do not catch the virus if someone sneezes or coughs you do not catch the virus unless it comes into contact with you its why not touching your face is so important because it can transfer from an object onto your hands then your face. I follow the rules i agree with most of them, i would have made masks on public transport compulsory but i understand that the care workers and NHS have to have them because they are subject to the virus constantly and the demand might put their supply at risk. Just because someone does not agree with a rule it does not mean they dont follow it.
