1 van, 1 man!

therailway61 · Post by **therailway61** » 17 Apr 2020, 11:41

Alright it is pissing down in Portsmouth. But........Red RM van pulls up outside my house and passenger jumps out and delivers parcel while driver sits in the van. C'mon guys the fought for concession is there for your safety and the well being of your family and work mates. I nearly went out to have a word, words fail me. Stay Safe.

gand · Post by **gand** » 17 Apr 2020, 12:40

therailway61 wrote:Alright it is pissing down in Portsmouth. But........Red RM van pulls up outside my house and passenger jumps out and delivers parcel while driver sits in the van. C'mon guys the fought for concession is there for your safety and the well being of your family and work mates. I nearly went out to have a word, words fail me. Stay Safe.

You think that's bad i went home today because of lack of social distancing in my office. Only to get a phone call that i have to come back to work because my manager took a union rep around the building and the two of them without me being there decided that it was safe and i can come back to work. So i was forced by royal mail in conjunction with the cwu to put my families and my health at risk.

twoloops · Post by **twoloops** » 17 Apr 2020, 14:25

I didn’t name names, but asked my manager what is the process is, I had seen 2 vans with crews sitting side by side, he said “Well that up to them?”

matthew68 · Post by **matthew68** » 17 Apr 2020, 15:06

twoloops wrote:I didn’t name names, but asked my manager what is the process is, I had seen 2 vans with crews sitting side by side, he said “Well that up to them?”

No it isnt up to them report this to your rep or cwu direct

barcajr · Post by **barcajr** » 17 Apr 2020, 18:30

In my office, the only van sharing is done by couples who already live together

clashcityrocker · Post by **clashcityrocker** » 17 Apr 2020, 18:47

barcajr wrote:In my office, the only van sharing is done by couples who already live together

And that too is expressly forbidden.
One person one van. No exceptions.

Postie45 · Post by **Postie45** » 17 Apr 2020, 19:25

gand wrote:
You think that's bad i went home today because of lack of social distancing in my office. Only to get a phone call that i have to come back to work because my manager took a union rep around the building and the two of them without me being there decided that it was safe and i can come back to work. So i was forced by royal mail in conjunction with the cwu to put my families and my health at risk.

ok, so play their game, theyve decided at the time the cwu and manager walked around it was safe so go back to work, as soon as you see anything that breaches that safety raise it with rep, if it repeats then you will be justified in going home again as they cant provide a consistent level of safety across the day and only can provide it at certain times when its being directly managed.

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 17 Apr 2020, 19:38

With all this sort of stuff going on,why are Royal Mail still allowed to run their business?

Maybe the CWU could go to the high/supreme court and get an injunction against Royal Mail for breaching the governments strict health and safety guidelines

Or maybe someone could film it and go to the paparazzi instead to name and shame. It would be easier.

Post by **aiden01** » 17 Apr 2020, 19:55

postslippete wrote:With all this sort of stuff going on,why are Royal Mail still allowed to run their business?

Maybe the CWU could go to the high/supreme court and get an injunction against Royal Mail for breaching the governments strict health and safety guidelines

Or maybe someone could film it and go to the paparazzi instead to name and shame. It would be easier.

Did you read ops post he actually says cwu rep agreed with manager that it was safe to work.

Post by **aiden01** » 17 Apr 2020, 19:57

aiden01 wrote:
postslippete wrote:With all this sort of stuff going on,why are Royal Mail still allowed to run their business?

Maybe the CWU could go to the high/supreme court and get an injunction against Royal Mail for breaching the governments strict health and safety guidelines

Or maybe someone could film it and go to the paparazzi instead to name and shame. It would be easier.
Did you read ops post he actually says cwu rep agreed with manager that it was safe to work.

Apologies it was second post in thread

therailway61 · Post by **therailway61** » 21 Apr 2020, 13:25

OK - Todays Update.

Lovely sunny day in Portsmouth 20 degrees. The Red RM Clown Bus pulls up outside, driver jumps out, passenger jumps out (could have been agency) and off they run to deliver their parcels. Can't be address specific for obvious reasons, but please Pompey MPU Reps have a word with your guys. Not too worried about these fools it is the others they may infect.

DGH · Post by **DGH** » 21 Apr 2020, 15:03

clashcityrocker wrote:
barcajr wrote:In my office, the only van sharing is done by couples who already live together
And that too is expressly forbidden.
One person one van. No exceptions.

Why should that be forbidden? It makes no sense to forbid it.

Woody Guthrie · Post by **Woody Guthrie** » 21 Apr 2020, 15:23

DGH wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
barcajr wrote:In my office, the only van sharing is done by couples who already live together
And that too is expressly forbidden.
One person one van. No exceptions.
Why should that be forbidden? It makes no sense to forbid it.

The answer we got from senior management was public perception and office dynamics.

It's not good for office moral if the only pair in the office who aren't impacted by the changes to procedure happen to be sleeping together.

In my humble opinion couples shouldn't be working together anyway.

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 21 Apr 2020, 15:24

aiden01 wrote:
postslippete wrote:With all this sort of stuff going on,why are Royal Mail still allowed to run their business?

Maybe the CWU could go to the high/supreme court and get an injunction against Royal Mail for breaching the governments strict health and safety guidelines

Or maybe someone could film it and go to the paparazzi instead to name and shame. It would be easier.
Did you read ops post he actually says cwu rep agreed with manager that it was safe to work.

I think the CWU are about as useful to us posties as a chocolate teapot during this crisis. From what I've seen at our depot social distancing is virtually impossible. For a start some of the aisles aren't even 2 metres wide!

DGH · Post by **DGH** » 21 Apr 2020, 17:27

Woody Guthrie wrote:
DGH wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
barcajr wrote:In my office, the only van sharing is done by couples who already live together
And that too is expressly forbidden.
One person one van. No exceptions.
Why should that be forbidden? It makes no sense to forbid it.
The answer we got from senior management was public perception and office dynamics.

It's not good for office moral if the only pair in the office who aren't impacted by the changes to procedure happen to be sleeping together.

In my humble opinion couples shouldn't be working together anyway.

We have several couples in our office. One of them work together all the time. Nobody cares. Banning couples (or indeed any postmen who happen to merely flat share) from working together out of a van is inefficient.

I'm not having a pop at you, Woody, I generally agree with you. However i n this case I genuinely don't understand the thinking